How is Usyk still the top HW at 38 when Ali was completely done at 38

Maybe he lost his legs because he was three years older.

 

Ali was displaying Parkinson’s symptoms in the late 60s, there’s a study on his voice and it’s very interesting - even if it effected his reflexes by micro seconds it’s boxing, a game of micro seconds… also most brain affliction effect the legs first, I think that’s why they went dead similar to Charles.

 

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At 25 yrs old? He was convicted in 1967.
Born in 1942. Sorry that makes no sense.

 

I’ve been told more than once that Parkinson’s isn’t caused by head trauma

 

He didn't box for three years and eight months. He was also three years and eight months older when he returned. Measurable things like hand and foot speed are bound to atrit in that time

 

He had the version that was, they’re different I think @NoNeck told me that ones from injuries to the back of the head.

 

Whether or not it's caused by head trauma his treating neurologists said it's likely it started to develop mid career. The head trauma debate is interesting. I believe the consensus is the nexus between head trauma and Parkinson's can't be ruled out.

 

So from the age of 25 to 28 you personally noticed your legs getting stiff or losing speed?

Full disclosure: I didn't change much if at all physically during those years. No I wasn't boxing but I did play flag football until my late 30's. At that (37) point I wasn't losing speed, but I lost the ability to recover quickly from injuries.

 

I’m sure the heavy bombs he took in the ring didn’t help

 

Early Parkinson’s is my guess, you’re on the money with your assessment I think.

 

While the exact cause of Parkinson's disease (PD) is still unknown, a strong association exists between repetitive head trauma and an increased risk of developing the condition. This is particularly relevant in contact sports like boxing.

Head Trauma as a Risk Factor: Studies have shown a link between traumatic brain injury (TBI), including concussions, and a heightened risk of developing PD later in life. The risk may increase with more severe or recurrent injuries. For instance, some studies found that mild TBI increased the risk of PD by 56%, and moderate to severe TBI by 83% in a group of veterans.

Muhammad Ali's Case: Muhammad Ali, a prominent boxer, developed Parkinson's disease, leading to much discussion about the role of his boxing career. While some neurologists who treated him suggest he had young-onset

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Parkinson's disease, they also acknowledge that head trauma is a known risk factor and a causative association in his specific case cannot be definitively determined. However, many experts agree that repetitive head trauma, as seen in boxing, "ain't good" for the brain and can set the stage for neurodegeneration.

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Interesting- Idiopathic means a direct cause can't be specified

 

Can't speak to physicality, but I'm absolutely mentally slower than I was as a young man. Probably partly my own fault due to a bit too much appreciation for fine whiskey or a microbrew with dinner. Professionally, I more than make up for it due to experience, but I do notice here and there.

Aging is just weird. Affects us all differently.

 

Fighters now understand that decades of hard sparring constantly, is no good and ages you quicker, not to mention the nutrition etc.

They have a better understanding of the game these days in those regards.

 

Lots of psychiatric/neurological conditions are genetic and environmental. His brother, who also took plenty of punches to the head, also got Parkinson's or half way Parkinson's but at a normal age. I think the debate should be about how genetically predisposed Ali was, not about whether boxing played a role because it obviously did. Guys in their mid thirties who take enormous amounts of punishment to the head don't just coincidentally develop neuro conditions that show up in fifty year olds.