Was Tim Tszyu ever that good?

He was a good fighter he had good backing in Australia. He only had 30 amateur fights and greatly improved as a pro after not looking incredibly good in his first few fights. There was pressure on Fox Sports in Australia to make the Jeff Horn fight as times were bad for them during the lock downs a lot thought it was to early for him to fight Horn and I believe Tim was a slight underdog going into the fight.

After a good performance against Horn he kept improving he has always been a seek and destroy type of fighter and it was working for him even up until the first fight with Fundora he was doing very well. The Bahkram fight was the turning point in hindsight it was not a good move to fight him the guy was a relative unknown commodity and Tim paid the price getting his chin and confidence cracked. Boxing is after all 90% mental. I don't think it is fair to say he was never any good he had a good year in 2023 and looked like a genuine force his win over Mendoza was quite good. He has always applied good pressure has above average power and was a good body puncher.

 

He's not a bad fighter but overrated as hell as the second coming by some of his fans.

 

Good fighter who ran into some bad luck/had some of his flaws catch up with him. The cut from an illegal elbow in Fundora I doesn't happen he almost certainly wins that fight clearly and probably doesn't fight Murtazaliev which clearly took a lot out of him. In a fair world he's a unified champion with some solid wins so clearly a 'good' fighter by any reasonable metric.

 

He did nothing to warrant being so overhyped. This forum baffles me sometimes (or always).

 

I think he had one of the worst corner I have seen. Sometime families are your worst enemy.

 

yep had his momentum/confidence/chin totally ruined in that fight. a real shame. I don't think Tim will have any regrets though because his mentality was always about being/fighting the best no matter what. He forged his own path making some good money. and won a world title so if he decides to bow out with faculties intact it's a career that he can be proud about in the end.

 

A US proxy would basically be if the entire US backed Tommy Morrison, said he'd beat Ali, and made excuses for him at every corner including the Bentt fight.

Or if the entire US acted like Camacho Jr. would be the next big thing.

 

He was a good contender

I never thought he'd beat Charlo but it would've been a good fight

Before the first Fundora loss I thought that Tim Tszyu would beat Vergil Ortiz but in retrospect I don't think that anymore

 

Ya and management

Very badly managed career

 

Tim had two of the worst gameplans ever

1. Get hurt by big puncher Murtazaliev don't hold don't even try to regroup just keep trying to go to war and get hit with the exact same punch
2. Box mid range all night with a massive reach disadvantage against Fungora and never attempt any sustained body attack at any point

Just two terrible gameplans from Team Tszyu

 

They did think Camacho Jr was the next big thing lol

 

Ya looking at it now Vergil would do bad things to Tim. Probably stops him in 5.

 

No he was never that good. He was a marketing product. The model was the same as the Benn and Eubank spawn. Literally it was a business model. The masses are very easy to sell things to.

 

Tim’s ability is closely linked to his confidence. When he’s confident, he’s a very good fighter because he believes in himself.

The Murtazaliev fight basically broke him. He lost a lot of the self belief after that bad defeat.

He’s not the first fighter that had this happened to. Look at Jermain Taylor, Hamed and Michael Spinks. Some fighters just don’t take it well and they never recover.