Joe Frazier vs Usyk

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Who wins and how

  1. Usyk KO/TKO

    9.1%
  2. Frazier KO/TKO

    29.1%
  3. Usyk Decision

    12.7%
  4. Frazier Decision

    47.3%
  5. Draw

    1.8%
  1. Homericlegend03

    Homericlegend03 Active Member Full Member

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    How do you think Usyks size advantages factors in?
     
  2. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk would not succumb to the pressure against a shorter fighter and inferior in terms of skill, Usyk wins this…
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Potentially
     
  4. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    Could say that about Tyson Fury when it clearly didn't.
     
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  5. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    ......next thread, Frazier vs Chisora. FFS who is auditing thread creation?
     
  6. Fitz56

    Fitz56 New Member Full Member

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    Usyk is naturally bigger and stronger than Ali?! Olek had to bulk from cruiser in his mid30s!
     
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  7. Fitz56

    Fitz56 New Member Full Member

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    Ali got the S beat out of him by Young?! I was there on 4-30-76. Neither guy got a bruise it was a bogus sparring session. And you don't get the S beat out of you by a guy who ducked outside the ropes a half dozen times and by the rules should have been DQd the second time. It was absurd.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Joe Frazier wrecks his body.
     
  9. Fitz56

    Fitz56 New Member Full Member

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    Think now. You stated Usyk is "naturally bigger and stronger than Ali..." However, while both are / were 6'3, Usyk was a cruiser until moving up (by eating like a Sumo) when he was 31. Ali was (for 60+ years ago) a full-fledged heavy when he was 10 years younger than that.
    And, that was natural growth not modern day forced feeding and bulk work. By age 31, Ali was 220+. Ali was VERY strong and subdued in the clinch any heavy he fought to include some phenomenally strong guys e.g., Liston, Bonavena, Frazier, Foreman, Norton and on and on. Finally, Ali and Frazier did no fight at "a similar weight." For their two famous wars, Ali was exactly 10# heavier for both. Otherwise, all due respect, you make some good technical assertions about how Usyk might fight Frazier.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    Usyk too big, too skilled, too Ukrainian ...
     
  11. PolishAssasin

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    Prime Frazier was really fast, so he would be a serious challenge for Usyk. Frazier would punish Usyk's body and avoid many of his punches. Frazier wins by a decision.
     
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    723 Old-head Full Member

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    Good response.
     
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  13. 723

    723 Old-head Full Member

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    Good matchup. Gun to my head, I think Frazier is prolly the worst stylistic matchup for Usyk out of all the historic greats. Though Usyk is undeniably more skilled, styles make fights. I will write up a detailed explanation with links later.
     
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  14. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk has never had anyone on him like Frazier would be, Frazier starts smoking sticking like Velcro and finding his rhythm to the body, he finds his way up top with the hook more than a couple times but it's a body shot that does it, Usyk drops to a knee briefly and collapses, TKO in deep water that Usyk doesn't know how to swim in
     
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  15. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Frazier by a brutal stoppage.

    anyone who claims Ali had an average chin needs to get their head checked.
     
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