I’m worried usyk could pop for PED’s

It would be naive to think he's never used PEDs.They all do to some extent. But he's unlikely to fail a test. Usyk and his team are consummate professionals. There's no chance he'd fail a test. And even if he did, so what? No one cares. And lawyers and governing bodies would negotiate a way to minimise the impact on any plans he'd have for fighting again.

Does anyone think Turki Al-Shikh worries about this kind of thing? Lol
We don't have to worry.
Even Dillian Whyte is too big a name for these types of charges to stick for long. You have to be as 'obnoxious' , as blatant, and as expendable as Jarell Miller to catch a proper ban.

 

He more than likely is on the juice, but they all are anyway.

 

Not everyone is morally bankrupt.

 

He would have been busted by now and he is not winning with KO power. Dubois wan't really KO'd he immediately got up after counted out like he was relieved to get out of the ring.

 

Exactly.

And it's funny how more is made out of baseless speculation about guys who have never failed a test than about guys who are well known to have failed for serious substances.

FFS we're actually talking about how Usyks legacy might suffer IF he pops even though he never has...
How many threads post comeback talk about how much being a known PED's cheat harms Fury's legacy? I cant remember it, it never really comes up... But let's speculate about Usyk being on it instead of Fury/etc being BACK on it..

 

I knew this guy at work who told me he couldn't eat omelettes at home and had to go to the local diner, Arcadia, because, you know, he just didn't have enough pop to break the eggs at home, you know, but, like, he start comin' in to work and talking about all these egg recipes he been tryin' out, omelettes, Benedict, stuff, and I'm like how you do that if you can't do that for real for real then, and he like I bought it in the carton, the eggs that be, like, pourin' out in a fluidic form, man, and I'm like, hoe, you juicin'! Anyway, that's why I suspect Usyk too. Because that guy I work with? I work at Usyk's gym, that was Usyk. SUSPECT.

 

I wouldn't say a boxer is morally bankrupt if they have used PEDs. Only slightly maybe.
Some people say it's more unethical to endorse Saudi Arabia purely because they throw money at us. But here we are.

Ot course, many boxers and athletes would never ever use PEDs on a personal matter of principle. But realistically they probably don't make the elite echelon.

 

People acting like using PEDs is the worst evil ever but wholesale selling out to Saudi Arabia is not even an issue. I'm not sure how that works.
And, no, of course Usyk wouldn't test positive for PEDs violations. It's very very unlikely.

 

Honestly, not far off in my book...

You're talking about a sport where every advantage counts and losing can involve taking potentially life altering damage - does cheating so you're more likely to be the one doing more damage than you naturally could not class as morally bankrupt?

I feel similarly about weight bullying - it's made worse by the fact so many do it already... Which then means fighters have to join in to avoid being at a disadvantage, putting themselves at risk in the process.


The whole point of boxing is to be the better man.

 

Sports ethics and politics/religious ethics (inseparable in theocratic countries) are quite different...

Sure, call it out, but it's getting tiring how personal politics have to be injected into everything these days, IMHO (and it's become so natural I've even been known to do it myself!)

 

How do you even prove this, without making the argument that nearly every professional world class boxer is morally bankrupt?
Yes, the term used fits this scenario - lack of principles and integrity, resulting in unethical behavior.

This is not a sport where if you are not faster or stronger, then you simply loose. It´s not the same as cycling, running, or swimming.
And we have had plenty of historic moments where a ton of athletes get busted years after competitions, with their old samples going through new methods of testing. Even then there are individuals among them who do not fail those tests.

 

Yes but there are lots of grey areas. It's not all about juicing yourself to the eyeballs to destroy an opponents' life. They might cite "recovery" or "injury" or "training fatigue" or "therapeutic" or use stuff that's on the fringes of the banned list (ie. It's been on and off the list) etc.
The fact that there's even such thing as a "TUE" should give a hint of the mindset and culture at the top level.

 

Maybe all professional boxers are "morally bankrupt" because they punch fellow human beings in the head for a living. They train to give other human being's concussions, lacerations, bruise them up, break a nose or two, make them bleed.
Maybe you and I are morally questionable for finding it entertaining or spending money to keep the violence going. I've put money in the pockets of boxers who've already failed tests, haven't you?

 

Im fine with PEDs as long as you are not busted for it. Cycling during training camp is one thing, stepping into the ring like Captain America is another. But I do wish we could have some kind of a freakshow event where fighters can take whatever supplement they want and really push the limits, though that'd be too dangerous to sanction.