Riddick Bowe Vs. Lennox Lewis's opponents?

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    They turned professional the same year.
    If "Big Daddy" hadn't retired in 1996...
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    When at his best Bowe likely beats most of them . But that’s the problem. Bowe’s prime was way too short to possibly duplicate Lennox’s career. That and he simply got hit too much. And against the practically endless list of big punchers Lennox fought, the damage he’d sustain would have had severe consequences.
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    anyone care to tell me aside from Holyfield that Bowe ever fought. To honestly compare the two is absurd. Bowes manager and trainer never wanted any part of Lewis. Lennox pummeled him in the Olympics and would have done so at any time . At his best Bowe got hit too much and really never fought anyone other than Evander who was a great fighter but a less threatening match up stylewise for Riddick than many others … any other argument is framed trash.
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Preach it, brother!
     
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  5. Jakub79

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    In 1997, Bowe was finished as a boxer for various reasons: lack of discipline, mental problems, poor health. If he had continued his career, he would have been knocked out by Ike, Lewis, Holyfield, Moorer, Tua—any one of them. But Riddick, in his prime from 1991, is following Lewis's example in 1996—without a problem. He would have easily defeated Mercer, Golota, Briggs, and Mavrovitz. The Holyfield of 1999 is clearly weaker than the Holyfield Riddick actually defeated. Botha and Grant were easy victories. Tua 2000, even an out-of-shape Tua, could have knocked him out because Riddick would have played his game, trading punches instead of fighting tactically like Lennox. If he had won, Rahman and Tyson wouldn't have done him any harm either. Bowe's easy victories, however, I think Vitali Klitschko would have been a stylistic nightmare. Worse than Golota in 1996. For the exhausted Bowe, Vitali's troubled career would have been a ring nightmare.

    In summary: Bowe's prime is clearly better than any of Lewis's rivals and wouldn't have needed a rematch with any of them, but his prime was too short to win as many fights as Lennox.
     
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  6. SouthpawsRule

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    Vitali cripples him.
     
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  7. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He probably could beat them all, but wouldn't. Was too inconsistent and his resume is too thin to convince me otherwise.
     
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  8. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bowe would be a favorite in 1992.
     
  9. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    Lennox should have accepted the same money/offer that Bowe himself actually received when he fought Holyfield. In which Lennox did have the same offer to fight Bowe, but he turned it down for some reason.
     
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  10. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe he should, but there was nothing wrong with feeling he was worth more. The purse bids would tell it all, but Bowe decided to drop the belt instead of fighting Lewis.
     
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  11. Smoochie

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  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Any time an argument is based on excuses and could off the point is self explanatory
     
  13. he grant

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  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Bowe was effectively offered more than $3M to fight Holyfield.
    • The fight's gross purse was $8M, with $5M guaranteed for Holyfield ($3M for Bowe)
    • A share of the PPV revenue was available in addition to the guaranteed purses.
    • Bowe, therefore received close to 40% of the purse and ultimately walked away with a reported $5.5M.
    • That $5.5M equated to approx. 25% of the available money from purse and PPV revenue-share combined.

    2. Newman's offer (90/10) to Lewis was universally laughed at by all observers.

    3. The fighters' earnings would be from the purse only and not include PPV revenue.

    4. The split offered did not even meet with the WBC's rules (75/25).

    5. Lewis made $6M more by fighting Tucker in his first defense than by fighting Bowe on Newman's terms.

    6. Bowe made $17M LESS by fighting Dokes in his first defense than by fighting Lewis on standard WBC terms.


    Bowe was the ultimate loser, due to him being advised by the ultimate clown (Newman).
     
  15. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    8 minutes in the video by @Rumsfeld in tells you all you need to know. Obviously Bowe threw the belt in the bin which was a complete own goal in the long-term, but the fact is Lennox REJECTED the same money Bowe himself received when he fought Holyfield. On top of that, Lennox's team rejected a 'winner take all' offer as well.

    Lennox even 'changed' his mind after Bowe had signed to fight Dokes. I'm not excusing Bowe throwing the belt in the bin, and especially how crap of a manager Newman was - but Lennox is also at blame for not making such a special fight happen, and I am still very f*****g pissed off about this on both sides!
     
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