H2H Usyk beats Wlad...but Vitali is a 50-50 fight

Fury UD Vitali
Usyk UD Vitali
Wlad TKO Vitali
Ruiz TKO AJ, lol

 

Question for all the Wlad boosters in here : What if Turki Al Sheeki forbids Wlad to lay over the back of Usyk for the first 10 rounds to soften him up? If the Saudi PR machiine had occurred during Wlad's prime, Wlad might be no more than a footnote in a bad era.

Usyk beats them both, but I give Vitali a better chance.

 

Both fought a slick smaller southpaw.

Wladimir won 19 rounds to 0 vs Byrd.

Vitali was in a back and forth contest vs a Byrd with 1 weeks notice and ended up losing.

Stylistically Wladimir matches up better and has a way better resume.

 

Wlad was 39

 

You mean Wlad

 

Looking through the prism of the fight Vitali Vs. Byrd I said it was the opposite - H2H Usyk beats Vitali ...but Wlad is a 50-50 fight.

 

Yeah just edited it.

 

Ain't havin' it. You can make stats say whatever you like and if the ref deems Wlad draping his massive torso over the backs of his shorter opponents to be unacceptable, Wlad's **** resume becomes waaay worse.

And you didn't answer my question...

 

You're talking about a hypothetical that no one can answer so it's irrelevant.

All we can judge it on is who matches up better vs Usyk and logically that would be Wladimir since he dominated a smaller skillful southpaw in Byrd and has a very good record vs southpaws overall.

Vitali has a far weaker resume and made absolutely no impression on Byrd who had a weeks notice. So I don't see how Vitali matches up better vs Usyk when he couldn't really deal with Byrd.

 

This is quite a stretch, and there is no evidence for it.

 

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There's no evidence Usyk could go undefeated across Wlad's career

 

He would probably have more a bit more miles on his body if he had nearly 70 pro fights.

But realistically I don't think Uysk could have ever had anywhere than many fights with his extremely long amateur career and cruiserweight career.

 

There's no evidence he wouldn't. This is a much better era with high quality big men, as opposed to the little guys Wlad squashed.

And its a moot point...Usyk would not have lost to Purity, Brewster, and Sanders in ten tries each.

 

That doesn't make sense. I don't credit boxers with being able to going 69-0 over 21 years against reasonably good opposition, at least a dozen ranked heavyweights, because "there's no evidence they can't". I credit boxing on what they proved they can do.

No it isn't. If Fury and Joshua were much better than prime Wlad's opposition they'd have made short work of an old version of Wlad. Instead, Fury boxed very low volume and cautious to a boring decision and AJ went 41 torrid rounds.
Fury struggled with Ngannou coming into the Usyk fight.
Joshua went 1-1 with fat Ruiz. Joshua's best wins are mainly old Wlad and old versions of Wlad's era challengers.

I could say Wlad beats Usyk ten out of ten times, but saying it doesn't prove anything.
The bottom line is that Usyk's done less, far less, at heavyweight. And his average might be better, but averages tend to dip a bit the more you carry on, the more you fight.