Archie Moore vs Andre Ward and Dmitry Bivol

Ill take Archie against both

 

Evolution? Try devolution Moore would crucify both

 

the gap in evolution? It’s hilarious ..Archie had over 200 fights against the best men in the world from middle to heavyweight … I get the argument in size discrepancy at heavyweight cross referenced w styles but to say even a terrific fighter like Ward w 36 fights was too evolved is a misuse of the gage …Moore beats both .

 

After Moore realizes Bivol's pitty-pat, twink-ass pad combos don’t do **** to the unit he is, he just drops his hands and sprints at Bivol, launching a haymaker that sends him flying out the ring

Ward would watch the fight, vacate his belts and retire for good

 

Remember, Moore did lose to Ezzard Charles and Floyd Patterson

 

Archie Moore is ageless in skill, he reached the tippy top of the mountain like Charles, Robinson, Armstrong, Napoles etc we’ve had talents just as good but they can’t reach that level…. very few get there, not sure if Mayweather even did for example, we don’t have the environment for that today. Canelo like Mayweather is about as good as it gets in this age. Bivol and Ward are not anything like the listed they’re a tier down, two in the case of Bivol.

 

TBH, Bivol doesn't impress me that much. Easily for Moore.

Ward is just a dirty, negative fighter who was out of his depth at 175. A one dimensional fighter in Kovalev beat him. Moore eats him up.

Beterbiev would be a far more interesting fight.

 

Ok you doing to much

 

That's what im saying they talking like its impossible for Archie to lose to Ward and Bivol, he definitely can, they not just gonna let themselves get koed, neither one has so its frankly insane to act like Moore is just gonna blow them away in the first four rounds.

 

Moore most likely wins both but both fights are objectively competitive, one of Ward and Bivol may actually win, its no where near as one sided as some of the people in this thread are suggesting.

 

As if both of those guys wouldn't beat the **** out of Bivol and Ward too lol

 

Ezzard Charles may have been the best P4P fighter ever bar none ... Charles was a better, faster Bovil with KO power (no knock on Bovol who I like and respect) . When Archie lost to Floyd Archie fought I at heavyweight and was well over forty years old ... Floyd was faster than Bivol or Ward, bigger or as big as Bovol post weight in and hit much harder than either ... I happen to very much like and respect both of the guys you're mentioning but the I think bout evolution of the sport and comparing More who was a monster player during the toughest ages of the forties ands fifties I think the referred to comparison is off .. Comparing Jack Dempsey at 188 to Tyson Fury I undretsnad.

 

Moore beats them both.

 

This evolution trip that you're on is becoming borderline trolling at this point .. Bivol is a great fighter but he does nothing that hasn't already been done & demonstrated infinite times by countless fighters from yesteryear.. he isn't some super evolved athlete... go watch some Ezzard Charles or Billy Conn & then tell me Wards jab & grab borefests are evolved.. if anything Ward wouldn't look out of place in 1890.