Favourite technically incorrect moves of all time

If we are going for fighter who do "wrong" things they get away with due to athleticism, can't leave out Hamed. He was almost as ridiculous as RJJ with the number of "wrong" things he could pull off.

 

Sure. But for me the title was "favourite," and I never thought Hamed much more than a circus freak who'd get decked once he stepped up. And then Barrera came...

 

Without trying to derail the thread, I find it interesting that you Jones leading with the left hook and Hagler's mid exchange stance switches are technically incorrect.

Jones leading with the left hook isn't necessary bad imo, simply because leading with the jab gets predictable, and predictability gets punished. Jones circumnavigated this issue by using the left hook instead, and restricted his jab basically just to setting traps. Id argue that this is an issue, in and of itself, but just leading with left hooks, which he usually had already set-up? Nah, that's A-Okay in my book. Especially when the vast majority of Jones' left hooks were straight out of a textbook.

Hagler's stance-switching imo, isn't necessarily technically incorrect either. Doing it mid-exhange is definitely dangerous - more so than Jones' left hooks imo - and he probably needed his iron chin to get so good at it, but I think the fact that he switched stances as he punched or defended is as technically proper as you can get for stance switching. I'd also add that the way he'd disguise his stance switching with punches - on top of the stance switching itself being a means to an end, as you elude to, i think it's genius. Not like Jones or Ali genius where it's actually just speed, but genuine boxing genius.

Now, I'm not saying that they're what every boxer should do - nor am I saying that they're without risk - I'm just saying that if risk is the standard for what's technically correct or not, then basically everything you can do is wrong. I mean, throwing a double jab a few times a round is risky.

 

I agree with you on the switch stancing; Chang did this even more often than Hagler. I do quibble with you on Jones leading with the left, however. I think the main objection is not he did it - but the frequency of that approach. In some fights the jab basically disappeared from Jones' repertoire altogether. Granted, he reverted to jabbing more responsibly against better opposition, but it was an eyesore nonetheless.

 

Actually, Chang always slips my mind when I'm thinking of great stance switchers but he might be the GOAT - along with Midget Wolgast. Excellent mention.

Yes, this is what I was eluding to when I said it creates issue of its own - Roughdiamond has posted about how Jones' lack of a genuinely authoritative jab is something a true, prime ATG could potentially exploit against him. Plus, as I mentioned about a double jab becoming risky, well, it was definitely risky to do what Jones did with his left hook so I do agree. I just think it's hard to label it as technically incorrect when technically, those shots in isolation really tick every box. They had great form, they were set up well, could be doubled up on, and on some occasions actually served a purpose beyond leading with/knocking then out.

 

CalzagheSlappy - its one move if you pretend you are playing steer fighter and hold the controller X button down turbo style

 

Michael Nunn …leaning backwards to avoid punches