Joshua should of been better than he was..

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Any version before his late 30s
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way, Usyk admitted Fury gave him more trouble and Fury wobbled Usyk unlike aj
     
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  3. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ hurt Usyk in the 9th much more than Fury did. He got him backpaddeling even more. Plus Fury got sent to the q*eer street by the middleweight while Usyk never really hurt AJ. I agree that Fury's performance in the first fight is close tho.
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

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    Usyk in his own words said Furys uppercut had him on queen street.
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    Also says Fury was his hardest fight at heavyweight. Fury won more rounds than aj too. Chisora gave Usyk more problems than aj to be honest
     
  5. Rico Spadafora

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    Ring IQ, Chin, and the revolving door of trainers hindered Joshua's career. I think in certain fights he thought all he had to do was show up and he would win.
     
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  6. OddR

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    Fury was tougher than AJ for Uysk but came closer to getting knocked out also.
     
  7. MaccaveliMacc

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    Both Fury and AJ won 4-5 rounds in these fights. And yes, Fury hurt him with the uppercut, but Usyk wasn't as hurt as he was in the 9th round against AJ. Joshua dominated that round. Chisora was nowhere near as effective as AJ, who had a razor close fight with Usyk until the 10th. Plus he wasn't bounced around like a ping pong ball like Fury did.
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

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    He never said anything about joshuas power but mentioned how much that uppercut from Fury hurt and how it was his toughest fight at heavyweight his words not mine, and I agree with him. Fury dominated multiple rounds, and Usyk said Chisora hit him the hardest, which suggests Chisora was more effective than aj
     
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  9. MaccaveliMacc

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    I don't care if he said anything about AJ's power. I watched the 9th and saw him hurt and backpeddaling while AJ was dominating. Fury dominated 2 rounds of that fight, lol. And yes, he said Chisora hit him the hardest ON THE GLOVES, so that's irrelevant.
     
  10. ZiggyBowie

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    Fury would have always had his number.
     
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  11. ZiggyBowie

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    Let’s be honest though, he was gifted the
    Gold medal. He lost 2 of his fights in many people’s opinion.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

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    Joshua was basically the second or third-best British heavyweight of all time. "Should've been better" is a reach.

    If a US heavyweight ends his career second or third behind Louis or Ali, nobody says, "He should've been better."

    Second or third greatest British heavyweight all time is amazing. Some might have him on top, depending on which country they think Lennox belongs to.

    I know these have been heady days for British fans, but he was one of the two or three best British heavyweights you've ever had. You should appreciate him for that, at least.

    There may not be anyone from Britain as good for a long, long time.
     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is why joshua is overrated.

    He is still so overhyped that people are suggesting he should have been better and didn't fulfill his potential legacy when he is a world champion with multiple title defenses ?

    Are you trying to tell me he was some all time great who just happened to fall short ? How do we even go about this ? Riddick Bowe and Tyson Fury are examples of all time great talents whos legacy fell short of their talent because of undiscipline.

    joshua was far more disciplined than both Bowe and Fury, fought more times as a champion and still lacks an all time great resume. Usyk didn't derail him, he had several years to built a great resume but he never did, his best wins are mostly old men, he never scored the big fights and got destroyed twice. People need to accept that joshua wasn't as good as they believed him to be. Dubois would KO ANY VERSION OF AJ
     
  14. MaccaveliMacc

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    I think the fight for the gold medal could have gone either way, but he definitely lost the first one.
     
  15. MarkusFlorez99

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    Itauma is better off the eye test. If he were to beat a prime Dubois and Parker in his early 20s that would prove he is a greater talent than aj

    Atang is also 18, he has about 15 years to surpass joshua