Something I'm noticing about Holyfield's title defenses compared to Bowe and Lewis'

I thought the Botha fight was a solid fight personally I'm not saying Botha is some major player.

But Botha was winning every round against a decent version of Tyson until a punch out of nowhere.

Botha also should've had a decision win over Briggs who got a gift draw in that fight.

 

I doubt it was much outside the norm for Don King (since you blame King for Bean's ranking), whose relationship with Sulaiman and the WBC was not much better.

Holyfield had just won the WBA by beating Tyson, beat Tyson again in rematch, beat (avenged) Moorer for the IBF in unification match, tried to fight Akinwande, ended up with Bean, then his next fight was a unification with Lennox Lewis.

I think I'm not the only one on this thread wondering what the problem is.

 

I'm saying most of the people Tyson beat weren't top HWs for most of the time Holyfield was a top HW. Like how could Holyfield beat Michael Spinks?

Foreman was 0-1 against Holyfield and Tyson was 0-2 against Holyfield. Foreman did better than Tyson did in either fight. Foreman did not fight Tyson.

 

Vaughn Bean had already challenged for the IBF title in 1997 and it was a close fight with Moorer. That might have been the logic behind it.

As far as I remember he was Butch Lewis's fighter, not Don King's .
So I'm not even sure you made a correct point to say Don King bribed the IBF on Bean or Holyfield's behalf.

Mavrovic didn't have a notable record either. So I guess you are asking who bribed the WBC to let Lewis fight him?

 

It would've been interesting to see Moorer in with the modern day Cruiserweights.

The Cruiserweight division was a bit of wasteland in Moorer's era I'm sure he would've campaigned at Cruiserweight in today's era.

 

Off the top of my head wasn't Charles Williams, Virgil Hill, champions at that point ? Would've been interesting fights.

Also can you imagine if Moorer stayed around and fought Hearns ? Two Kronk fighters going at it.

I think Moorer was just too big for the division and cutting too much weight so he moved up. But I definitely would've liked to of seen Moorer against the likes of Briedis, Gassiev, Huck, Hunter, Opetaia, at Cruiserweight.

 

Bean wasn't the only undeserving challenger or undeserving mandatory challenger.

It was a mandatory for Holyfield iBF in 1998, and was Holyfield's third defence of the WBA. And after a fight was attempted with the WBA challenger Akinwande, who failed medical.
Lewis's third defence in his first reign was PHIL JACKSON, his third defence on his second reign was ZELKJO MAVROVIC.

Golota was undeserving and largely unqualified. His best win was against Danell Nicholson, decent but not top 10 worthy.


So, if Don King is to blame for every undeserving mandatory, why are you focusing on Holyfield?

 

@NoNeck I wish you good luck in this thread reaching 50 pages I'm done with this subject now BTW but atleast i contributed somewhat to it lol.

Farewell until our next debate.

 

“Pretty sure” I think he used personally I mean look at the guy lol but what did you read? Duran used, he admitted it.