WBO orders Usyk vs Parker

What if he drops the belt and lets Parker vs Itauma happen and then fights the winner for another reunification? Its something I could seriously see happening.

 

If you read that much into it, then you're too obsessed with the topic.

 

I am actually coming to believe that this is the plan. And Usyk will do it again after that with Kabeyal. It will allow him to say that he is two-time champion....three time-champion...and allow him to mix in money fights between the mandatories.

I don't really like the plan, if that is what it is. His real fans want to see him and Parker next.

 

BS. Any other fighter would face criticism and rightly so, Usyk is no exception.

You had people on here justifying him potentially fighting some LHW MMA fighter ffs.

 

I'd love to be wrong though and just see Usyk get in the ring with Parker before the year is out.

 

It's fine. There is nothing wrong with being a prize fighter and choosing to fight rematches. He is still an ATG.

However, I will criticise any champion who looks like that are starting to take the Mayweather approach rather than fighting their mandatories (I criticised Wilder, Joshua, and Fury for the same thing). His reluctance to mention Parker, and prior to that drop the belt to then choose Dubois last minute, is very much the Mayweather approach.

Well we shall see. I am suggesting his track record shows he doesn't like to take fights unless it's on terms he is happy with. I fully expect him to break negotiations off with Parker. However, if he fights him I will happily be wrong. And as I said in another thread, if he beats Parker and Kabayel, I would consider him a top 10 ATG.

We can look to past actions to predict the future. But maybe I am looking at this wrong, in which case my prediction will be wrong. I hope it is.

 

There is no "we will see" and his track record is perfect to date. At heavywweight he has...

1. Won the unified title
2. Fought a contractually obligated rematch that he had to sign to get the fight
3. Fought a mando
4. Fought for undisputed
5. Fought a contractually obligated rematch that he had to sign to get the fight.
6. Fought for undisputed again.

That is perfect, and no, there is no other name in that time frame that he should have fought except maybe Parker at the end.

Now he has 23 days to sign to fight Parker. I hope he does it, but whether he does or doesn't it doesn't re-write history. The idea that he should have fought Sprong, or Joyce, or Wilder, or Hrgovic or whatever is ridiculous.

 

Love it, but as said:

Now if you want to make your zero context fan argument. Be my guest, but I don't think you would let that fly if a Fury or Wilder fan tried to pull that.

 

Agreed. I've been a massive fan of Usyk for years but I hate this argument and the fanboyism behind it. Reminder that when Canelo and his fans stay stuff like this they are (rightly) criticised. Difference is Canelo boxes more than once a year. And I can't stand the bloke

 

Yes but your thoughts are ridiculous, no matter how many time you voice them. And that fact that you blamed him for not fighting Sprong, who was pulled for PEDs, and Joyce who he beat in WSB, both of whom are historically irrelevant, shows that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Who should have fought and when should he have squeezed them in? Please answer with specifics.

 

The one thing Usyk could have done

is fight more often

 

There you go,
Oleksandr Usyk insists he will make 'the final decision' over a fight with Joe Joyce | Boxing News | Sky Sports
as I say, there is always context. But it really is starting to look like Usyk likes to be in control of who he fights and when.

Btw, you really seem obsessed with that WSB win Usyk got before either guy entered the pros. Didn't you do a poll on here about that? Did everyone agree with you on that Usyk has a pro heavyweight win over Joyce?

 

You haven't explained how that would be a better or more logical fight than the ones he took. In fact, it isn't. But please, proceed.

 

If you had kept up with the ongoing talk at the time like I did, you'd know that there were plenty of people in AJ's camp telling him to drop the belt and not fight Usyk. McCracken didn't want him to take the fight, Hearn was suggesting he bail on it, and several others. AJ decided to overrule them and fight Usyk. In fact, Usyk himself said he didn't try knocking Delboy out because he wanted to entice AJ and his team to accept the fight. So the idea that AJ was always, 100%, come rain sleet snow or shine going to fight Usyk isn't based in reality.

But let's assume you're right. Outside of that one instance, when has Usyk shucked his responsibilities as champ? Dubois was his mando and he had to accept a rematch to get the Fury fight. Maybe you could argue that he should have tried pushing back the Fury rematch until after he'd cleaned out Dubois again? That seems pretty impossible though. And I'm surprised to see complaining about Usyk and no complaining about Frank Warren continually moving a guy into prime mando position and getting him emailed belts when he doesn't deserve it.

The other complaint I'm seeing on this thread is that Usyk doesn't fight enough considering he's holding all these belts. I would counter with, who exactly IS fighting enough when they have belts in this era of boxing? That's just the way boxing is now. The promoters run the whole damn thing. If they don't want to pay for certain fights you ain't getting those fights. Look at poor ol' Parker. Literally right after Usyk smokes Dubois, Turki is like, "Nah. We ain't payin' for no Parker fight." And Parker is a guy who has been going to Saudi, fighting who they put in front of him, even fighting Bakole after Dubois pulled out. He's a soldier and he's still getting stick because the Chubby Human Rights Violator in Chief doesn't rate him for whatever reason. The fighters have little to no say in any of this. Either you fight who the promoters want or you can F-off and potentially get blackballed.

Personally, I hope Usyk does fight Parker. Parker deserves the shot even though we all know he stands a snowball's chance in Hell of winning. If Usyk drops the belt only to fight Fury for a 3rd time then he absolutely should get some criticism. That being said, in this day in age where almost everyone is a loudmouth, me me me, screw everyone else and the rules I'll do whatever I want type person like Fury, Usyk is a class act. He's only ever been respectful, fought the best, fought them on the road, and been flawless.