Most impressive 6 fight streak at HW? (H2H factored) Is it Usyk? (Read OP)

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    That he fought down to his level of opposition like James Toney did, but not as extremely as Toney.

    He looked really good in his four biggest fights before Usyk. I'll count those rather than McDermott.
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Wait until you find out how the careers of Michael Spinks, Tyrell Biggs, Pinklon Thomas, and Tony Tubbs played out after fighting Tyson.
     
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  3. NoNeck

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    Fury destroyed Dillian Whyte because he actually cared about that fight, but didn't take Francis seriously.

    I suppose you knew more than the oddsmakers who favored Fury over Usyk and can back it up by finding an old post of yours saying Usyk would beat Fury because he was past prime like 88 Holmes.

    I'll wait.
     
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  4. Philosopher

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    For me, Ali, Foreman and Tyson off the top of my head have single wins that eclipse Usyk's 6 fight 'streak'. I understand the point OP is making but great fighters beat great fighters, and sadly, through no fault of his own, Usyk is operating in an era where there are fighters who are 'great' by contemporary standards but retrospectively? I'm not sure. Now, here is a contradiction, I now rank Usyk highly for his undoubted skills and 'potential', the same way I do with Holmes, Wlad and Vitali...and to a lesser extent Liston. They dont have signature wins, passing of the torch fights, but I have Holmes @3 and both Liston and Wlad in my top ten..
     
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  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  6. Yorbals

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    It’s not even close
    Others have a 6 fight streak with a weak link.
    Usyk’s 6 fight streak the whole chain is dodgy
     
  7. NoNeck

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    Your feelings.
     
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  8. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, after the Ngannou fiasco, Usyk was a favorite against Fury. Very slight, but still.
     
  9. NoNeck

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    “Fury was initially a slight favorite at -130, while Usyk was listed at +110. “
     
  10. MaccaveliMacc

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    Initially, but the odds changed around 3 months before the fight after it was rescheduled.
     
  11. Greg Price99

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    There are a combined 8 opponents in Ali's above run and Usyk's run.

    If we created a thread in here asking for people to rank those HW wins 1-8 and tallied up all the votes, my guess is they'd be ranked, best to worse:

    1. Foreman
    2. Frazier
    3. Fury
    4. AJ
    5. Lyle
    6. Bugner
    7. Dubois
    8. Wepner

    If so, the combined forums view would edge it to Ali, on the basis of assigning a 1-12 points to each win, 12 to the best:

    Ali:

    Foreman - 12
    Frazier - 11 + 10
    Lyle - 5
    Bugner - 4
    Wepner ‐ 1
    Total = 43

    Usyk:

    Fury - 9 + 8
    AJ - 7 + 6
    Dubios - 3 + 2
    Total = 35

    I appreciate this approach isn't definitive, as it assumes an equal disparity in value between each win, which isn't the case in reality, but gives an indication as to what I believe would be the collective forums view.
     
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  12. Seamus

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    If Cockell weren't enough to disqualify this list, LaStarza was a practical non-entity, a guy waiting around to cash in on his first performance against a very green Marciano. Head to head, all these guys weren't much, either in the division they were in or at the time in their careers.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    The Fury wins were better than the Frazier wins and Dubois was at least equal to Lyle and Bugner. The guy ko’d AJ and had a belt on his waist, something the other two never earned.
     
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  14. Greg Price99

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    As stated, my post was based on what I'd guess would be the collective forums view, were we to run such a thread.

    If I were to guess how you'd order the wins on that same basis, I'm confident you'd have Usyk's run as the superior.
     
  15. NoNeck

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    I don’t put much value in an imaginary collective opinion coming from this forum. This is a place where multiple posters found a way to pretend that Shakur didn’t beat Zepeda.
     
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