Why wasn't Roy Jones Jr. - James Toney More Competitive?

Peak Jones Jnr. 'Nuff said.

 

Terrible post. Toney is in higher class than Canelo, he would beat him convincingly

 

Styles and levels. Peak Jones is simply much better than Toney and had the style to school him....which actually happened in the ring.

 

Toney had no answer for Roy’s speed.

 

Nope. Toney is just an inconsistent waste of talent. Canelo had a better career and he’d beat him 8/10 from his discipline alone. Toney may win if he bothers to show up in shape, even then its up for debate.

 

I’ve always had a hard time believing that Toney was so drained.

He looked good knocking out Prince Charles Williams in July 1994, Jones Jnr was Toney’s 5th fight of the year, Toney was on a good streak but decides to eat himself to blimp status then drain himself down in the space of 3 months before facing the best and most dangerous opponent of his career??

If he truly was that undisciplined then no way does he deserve a bit of a “pass” for this loss. That’s some ridiculous levels of unprofessionalism if true.

 

Yeah, so he ballooned from 168 vs Williams to 210(allegedly) and then went back to 167 vs RJJ, all from August to November? Come on people. Anyone who ever had to go on a diet or manipulate his bodyweight in any way knows how utterly ridiculous those numbers are.

 

It was actually 240+ he got to.

 

Toney never wanted to fight Jones. If he was out of shape or weight drained it's because he wanted an excuse maybe. He moved to 168 2 fights before Jones. It wasn't a short notice situation.

At that time Roy Jones was on the rise he was from another planet it seemed. Usually guys with that kind of speed don't have 1 shot punching power. At 60 and 68 Jones did.
Toney saw Roy do away with some fighters fairly easily that he went the distance with. He knew he couldnt win. So depressed James went to the fridge...Riddick Bowe was already there.

 

Toney weight drained my ass, he didn't look dead at the weight at all, it's just he wasn't in Jones's timezone speedwise.

 

This.

The Jones fight is different than Tiberi, whom he took lightly and faced just eight weeks after McCallum. Going into the Jones fight, he had looked in great shape against Charles Williams and had four months to prepare for Jones, who was highly rated already then and someone to take very seriously.

He also hadn't shown the inconsistency at SMW he had at MW. The weight at that point seemed to suit him and remains the weight class in which he looked the best imo. But then he'd all of a sudden go off the rails for a very high profile match-up? Sounds strange.

 

Probably poor form, whatever the reason, plus a stylistic mismatch. Jones's feet were too fast for the always somewhat static Toney. That's all. Historically, they're on similar levels, but in a head-to-head fight, Jones is better, and at this particular moment, much better.

 

No, it just means Toney was just unpredictable. In arguably his biggest fight of his career against Rahman, James came in at a career high and fat 240 pounds.

 

LOL GGG beat him twice. Toney would beat him much more easy. Difference in skills. Even opponents who lost against Toney (Nunn, Mc Callum, Prince Williams) would beat Canelo rather easily.