Usyk targeting Wilder?

It makes sense that Usyk would like to knock off the whole Big 3 from the 2018-2021 era, but if he really choses Wilder, it will heavily influence his legacy.

 

Obvious media play from Team Usyk, as is the Paul stuff. I swear guys on here will believe any old rumor

 

That would be hilarious, history would see him wiping up the entire "3 headed beast" of modern HWs and be undeniable, a lot more relevance than Parker, at least to historians 20 years from now.

 

So where is this actually coming from? I know he said Usyk's team, but what does that mean? Is this just to keep them in headlines and keep people guessing?

 

I'm not sure there's any credible sense in which he's not already undeniable?

And I don't see how historians in the future wouldn't see through:
A) The fact that Parker made Wilder look like a third rate amateur when they fought each other
B) That Wilder was the most transparently manufactured fraud in decades, if not ever - with a long title reign defined by ducking and lack of credible achievement.

Parker would mean far more already, and he's in his prime now with time to achieve even more...

The only group that might realistically see Wilder as a better win are the kind of super casuals whose opinions don't really count for much.

 

He's my GOAT next to Lennox at least H2H. "History" in 20 years will see Wilder having a 5+ year reign with 10 defences and not Parker, as unfair as we know it to be right now. The story isn't "AJ Fury and Parker" is it. The thing everyone's said was AJ Fury Wilder are the 3 to beat. Just because he was exposed towards the end doesn't rewrite that, as paper as he was.

 

I would like Usyk to get a defense on his record. Just one will do.

At the moment defenses of title are not that important, but like most things in boxing history, this is a cycle. Defenses become incredibly important and lose their importance over time. It ebbs and flows with unification.

We see in the ancient Pygmachia a reverence for repetition replaced by the Pyx's love for consolidation. Or more directly, champions who are honored and respected for having been Olympian more than once replaced by champions who are only champion once but are champion of more than boxing. The greatest of these examples went even beyond combat sports and won track titles as well.

Fast forward to the middle period and duels of various nature most of what would become prizefighting is tied to land as much as it is anything else. Not just rules but as the prize. Curiously, in some eras a small scrap becomes super important while in other eras growing and spreading boarders is most important.

Then we have the BK champions. Regardless of how much semantics you play or terms you stretch the fact is anything resembling a champion during this period is crowned on their defense not their defeating the former champion. The idea was to give way for the reasoning the old champion aged out and the man who beat him was lucky not best. Beat the old champion and defend the status against the next contender or abouts, then you get the honors of an adoring public. This is why what of the latter BK boys you guys know about, Cribb-Sullivan, all of them were called champion before given their belt. Some, Mendoza, Burke, never got any belt or was only ever considered a champion after they had retired.

Which juxtaposes the older era nicely. Now, defenses are just a stat to be used when convenient and underplayed when not. No more or less important than PPVs or KOs or anything else, but it wasn't that long ago. Some of you older cats can probably still remember hearing "A champion is not a true champion until they have made a defense" if you haven't, watch more old boxing. They will say it heaps on ESPN and HBO and such 70s/80s/90s eras. Clearly less important than the BK era but more important than most stats.

No one ever said a champion isn't a true champion until they get a KO or earn a certain amount of money.

So what my super long winded point is, is Usyk has a pretty good ATG argument and one of the only things he can do from here to make it stronger is get that defense.

The last undisputed champion to defend the title was Evander.

 

This screams slow news day so let’s make up something up lol

the talks of Usyk fighting wilder when the first negotiations of the fury fight fell through was the only time this fight made any sort of sense. Would have been a good profile raiser for Usyk in America and Usyk beating furys best win would have put pressure on for fury to take the Usyk/fury fight but fight got made and wilder lose to Parker. Fight makes 0 sense anymore to happen.

 

Wilder by TKO, he’s all wrong for Usky, Deontay reclaims the belts that are rightfully his, the best of his generation, Fury was his Corrie Sanders that’s all

 

As a final fight, I'd be good with this match up taking place. Wilder has about the same chance as he would have 5-6 years ago. Wilder does have some name recognition. Apparently it depends on the circumstances whether or not the fight would even happen, meaning Wilder will have to beat someone halfway decent.

 

If you ignore that he was stripped he has technically defended undisputed to Fury and Dubois now. Doing it again would only put it "officially on paper"

 

Usyk V Wilder would genuinely be the most extreme example of all time of a boxer versus a puncher.

Wilder in his prime has a small puncher's chance of winning but these days Wilder is barely even in the top 25 and is completely shot on top of that.

Perhaps Usyk wants to beat every relevant HW in this era?

 

Wlad certainly wasn't available.

Wilder is and always was a way lesser win for Fury than Wlad was.

 

Sorry meant to say “arguably” his best win or his best win “to some people”. I’d agree Wlad is a better win.

 

If this actually were to happen, I'd be in here all day just for fun