Usyk targeting Wilder?

He was also a late subsitute to Takam, who Usyk was scheduled to fight originally.

 

I do not think usyk will fight wilder .

Initially the idea came not from wilder but from usyk,s management . At first thought a good idea , a shot man und sure win, probably in need of money and a known name , especially in USA.

But after thinking it twice usyk will probably bail off , even a shot wilder has the danger of a lucky sudden shot and imho usyk will not take the slightest chance to loose a fight .

 

I liked your post after reading the first half, but disagree with the second half. I don't think Usyk will see Wilder as too much of a threat.

 

I'm going to need you to work on that comprehension.

1st.... I don't care for Wilder even before his nonsense and energy he was giving Fury. Always thought that he was building a career on individuals who were far from elite. The man went 40+ fights and never beating anyone worth discussing the following week of the fight. I simply said the "personal vendetta" that you show towards a man who doesn't effect your life good or bad is weird.....

2nd... I don't disagree that Usyk at this point of his career has earned the right to fight whoever. No doubt, but as a fan of the sport who loves seeing competition especially when someone is holding a world title, let alone, multiple ones, I don't want to see him in the ring with someone who clearly has minimal chance at even making it a fight, let alone beating him. And again, no where did I say that those names were TUNE UPs. I specifically said, FAVORABLE MATCH UPs. I understand that those names I stated were world class opponents and talented in themselves, but Uysk was clearly the much better fighter going into the bouts based on what I saw of him and the opponents mentioned.

How's bout you actually try to understand what I'm saying, rather than immediately trying to debate a stance I'm not making. Reading isn't hard.

 

As I pointed out to the poster I responded to....No where did I suggest those names weren't talented in their own right. I didn't even call them "tune ups" as he was claiming I was. I simply said that vs Usyk, they were favorable match ups. Regardless of the number of defenses by Huck and the titles won by Gassiev........Usyk from my and many others eyes was the better fighter going into the match up. And he showcased it when the bell rang.

I'll accept someone not liking my post..... No sweat off my back, but let's understand what I am saying rather suggesting that I'm taking a difference stance. Those names I mentioned where not elite match ups.... They were good to great milestones for Usyk on a way to a HOF career. I stand on that.

 

You missed a fighter in the mix there.

Usyk was originally scheduled to fight Takam in May of 2019, but Usyk pulled out with a bicep injury.
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/ne...rmed the news on Twitter on Tuesday afternoon.
Takam was still chasing that fight as late as August/September 2019:
Takam: I'm Still More Than Ready To Welcome Usyk To Division!
Unfortunately for Takam, Team Usyk changed to 14-0-0 (13KO) Tyrone Spong.
Unfortunately for Tyrone Spong, VADA found an adverse finding in one of three samples (he was adamant he was being set-up, but they all say that don't they):
Tyrone Spong firmly denies having used any substance. Says this is all Hearns game. What do you think? : r/Boxing
They then changed last minute to Witherspoon October 2019.

I really don't know why they move off from Takam. It was Usyk that pulled out. Why change to Spong? Takam still wanted the fight.

 

no he isn't, this is what decent opponents always would have done to him.

 

Meh. Would've been cool even just a couple of years back but now? Not super crazy about it, especially since even in his most recent winning effort he didn't look all that good, even by his standards. Still, it probably would rake in a ton of cash for Usyk so I can see why he'd wanna do it, and hey, at least it wouldn't be another ****ing rematch on the resume

I would hope to see Usyk take on Parker or Kabayel before he did this though.

 

TLDR

 

How much money do you think someone would win if they bet on Wilder beating Usyk on points and it actually happened? Forget Douglas vs Tyson, anyone can lose by knockout... but that would surely have to be the biggest shock in boxing history right? It's hilarious to think of the ridiculousness of it.

In all seriousness, I feel bad for saying this, because Parker deserves a shot, but I'd even rather see this than Usyk-Parker. I'm actually dreading the boredom from that fight, if it happens. As mentioned above though... Wardley would be a great fight for Usyk. I feel like Wardley has now taken over that Wilder role, of 'lose every round but win by KO'. Probably has a bit more actual boxing skill than Wilder to be fair. But that could be a very interesting opponent for Usyk. That, or Kabayel.

 

I was far from the only one that favored Usyk. Thus the reason I said what I said. And still stand on it.

Proven professionals aren't always equal to being elite....... Thus THE POINT that I am making.

Because in that case, wouldn't an actual world champion, current or former, be a proven professional as well? Biggest example to be made currently is Terence Crawford, who has beaten 12 total champions..........more than half of them were stopped. Half of them were undefeated going into the fight......... But which one if any of them would you label......ELITE........take your time.

It's just weird that this conversation is being drug out because I stated that the Wilder fight for Usyk is not a sexy match up. Wilder is and has always been a B level talent, and I'm honestly being nice with that grade. Usyk is elite talent. And the holder of hardware that other good to great to elite HWs are aiming for. But Wilder is the name being thrown out even after his last few performances......

 

I'll try to have pictures available for you next time kid..... Maybe even provide some fruit snacks........lol.

 

If it helps set your mind at rest...

On paper, Fury should've been an extremely boring fight for Usyk in a similar way to Parker - a skilled boxer with mediocre power.

And yet Fury as at least as interesting against Usyk as Joshua was... Not just because he was more hyped in the moment, but because it was thought that a bigger but still mobile boxer could present a challenge - and despite Usyk winning very clearly, those fights were still interesting and fun to watch... And Usyk against Parker likely would be, too.

Sure, Parker's likely to lose... But there's still fun questions - is Usyk still beating father time, for example? Because Parker might not have as high a ceiling as Fury, but he's a heck of a lot younger and harder to knock down.


Generally, regardless of the styles, if the most proven opponent is head and shoulders more proven than the alternatives, it's very likely to be the most interesting fight...
Not guaranteed, but I would expect Parker to be competitive at times - I'd be surprised if it was an absolute blowout, much more so than I would be if Kabayel just couldn't get close.