Usyk would destroy Prime Lennox Lewis

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  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Lewis era was so great you wouldn't have guys like Moorer and Rahman winning the championship let alone an aging Foreman
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Or Moorer is better than you think. If Beterbiev and Bivol did what Spinks and Moorer did he'd be called one of the goats. I mean Moorer becoming champion can't be worse than James Toneys mid 2000s run

    Rahman is better than the likes of Martin and Stiverne, Rahman KO'd Sanders. Povetkin in his prime couldn’t dominate an old Donald or KO Byrd but was still a top guy in his 40s along with Chisora and they were never as dominant as peak Foreman so the 90s couldn't have been worse, which is what you seem to be insinuating
     
  3. TNSNO1878

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    If Usyk's era was so great, you wouldn't have guys like Charles Martin and Andy Ruiz winning championships and the "lineal" champ getting dropped by a cagefighter.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Lewis literally got one punch sparked out cold by a fighter who'd been KO'd by Maskaev

    Was one punch knocked senseless by a guy with 5 losses

    And should've lost to a fighter who lost to a 18-9 journeyman, a senior citizen, and 2 fights prior to facing Lewis fought to a draw vs a 7-9-2 journeyman
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Also let's not leave out Valeriy Abadzhyan, the guy that KO'd Lewis in the amateurs. He was a switch hitter. Which might be why Lennox avoided southpaws for his entire pro career.:D

    To answer the OP's question, of course Usyk destroys Lewis.
     
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  6. TNSNO1878

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    Didn't Usyk lose to Shawn Porter as an amateur?
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ruiz and Martin are from the Fury-Joshua era. Usyk was not even a heavy yet.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Good point. Maybe that is the reason why Lewis was terrified of southpaws

    And yes, despite being huge for his weight class Lewis was KO'd in the amateurs too. That never happened to Usyk despite him have almost 4 x the amount of amateur fights as Lewis.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    When he was a 19 year old Middleweight, and Porter went on to be a world champion, and pushed Crawford to the limit. So ****ing what! I'm merely pointing out, Lewis lost to a switch hitter and conveniently never fought a southpaw as a pro. Usyk never has done all that great against swarmers and effective pressure fighters, which backs up my point. Although unlike Lewis, he never flat out avoids them.
     
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  10. TNSNO1878

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    Once we start pulling up amateur records then there are few fighters in the world who avoid scrutiny. Let's not forget about Korobov either who dropped Usyk and stopped him in the amateurs. Usyk is great but he's not invincible, neither is Lewis. Usyk vs Lewis at HW would be the toughest fight either of them have, the OP saying Usyk would destroy a prime Lewis is an insane statement. Dubois, Joshua and Fury are not fit to lace Lewis's boots. Lennox never fought anyone as good as Usyk and Usyk has never fought anyone as good as Lewis.
     
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  11. TNSNO1878

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    Usyk fought Witherspoon in October 2019 didn't he, a few months after Ruiz knocked out Joshua? I think Fury beating Wlad is what kickstarted this era and once Usyk retires that'll be the end of it. I know people have different definitions though.
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beating Chazz Witherspoon does not annoint an era. Fair play to you that he started in the Fury-Joshua era, but it's still two pretty distinct eras for my money.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Nothing insane about it whatsoever. Lewis was overrated as ****, whereas Usyk while being rated properly more and more, is still undervalued and underrated. Lewis' jab and right would be easily avoided by Usyk and Usyk certainly wouldn't leap into any of his uppercuts. Lewis' gas tank would be depleted by all of the missed punches even worse than it usually was, and he certainly wouldn't be allowed to coast or hold with Usyk, because Usyk wouldn't let him. He also could not afford to lose focus, which he did often, because Usyk would capitalize there as well. Based purely on styles, strengths & weaknesses and how they'd mesh, Usyk should be seen as the clear favorite.
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    Moorer wasn't interested in fighting Lewis.

    Sanders wasn't ranked when Lewis was champion.

    The only viable southpaw would've been Byrd but Lewis was chasing big money fights at that time for example vs Tyson as he was coming towards the end of his career.

    And I think most Heavyweights would rather Tyson on their resume rather than Byrd. Which I don't think had anything to do with Lewis avoiding southpaws.

    Lewis also did fight a southpaw in his 6th professional fight vs Greg Gorrell and stopped him in 5.

    Usyk didn't "destroy" Joshua 2, Chisora, Fury 1 & 2, so odds are he wouldn't destroy Lewis if they all went the distance in competitive fights.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    How is Lewis overrated ? he has one of the best resumes ever for a Heavyweight.

    Usyk being rated properly ? Well I guess that's down to who you ask. Because some rate him as the GOAT and that isn't rating him properly.
     
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