WBO orders Usyk vs Parker

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Chuck Norris, Jul 24, 2025.


  1. Hood.

    Hood. Realist Full Member

    410
    318
    Jul 6, 2022
    I think Parker is secretly hoping Usyk vacates. Usyk is happy to take his time & wait for the purse bid to be called. I wouldn't be surprised to see an offer &/ or an extension requested on or near the last day of negotiations. Usyk is in the drivers seat & the longer the negotiations play out the better it is for his recovery & also keeps Parker inactive on the bench. There are reasons for Usyk not to take the fight, as a prize fighter he can potentially make more against other opponents, for example. For Parker if the belt becomes vacant, he'll be elevated & be on the receiving end of the higher splits as champion in his next bout.
     
    mrbigshot and Journeyman92 like this.
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

    19,057
    21,096
    Sep 22, 2021
    I’m a perfect world… Parker, Agit then Moses, Moses, Agit and Parker are all in there primes and the wins will age greatly - Parker is owed this fight doe, leaving without JP would be a damn shame.
     
  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

    19,057
    21,096
    Sep 22, 2021
    Basically yeah if Usyk retired now too Parker has a shot of trinket hunting and being the defacto “champ” and I think they’d be quick to try and anoint someone for a “super fight” if Usyk leaves it’s Agit and Parker left.
     
    Hood. and Kiwi Fish like this.
  4. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

    5,506
    3,300
    Oct 19, 2006
    "SuperFight".

    Exactly

    There would be at least 2 Voluntaries before Parker faces a Mando
     
    Kiwi Fish likes this.
  5. NahMateNoWay

    NahMateNoWay Member Full Member

    174
    301
    Jun 2, 2024
    At this point I'm thinking Usyk will drop the belt and Moses - Parker gets made quickly with Usyk very likely taking on the winner.
    I reckon the plan is to have Moses step into the ring against Usyk with a belt.
    Hoping Parker upsets the applecart (again) and beats whoever he has to.
    Isn't fair. Not the way it should be. But it is what it is. For all the talk of Turki making the best fight the best people have forgotten that he means who he thinks is the best, not the fans, not the ABC orgs, just whatever is best for his goals.
    And right now that isn't Parker.
     
    Kiwi Fish likes this.
  6. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

    1,025
    1,672
    Dec 13, 2024
    They say they aren't getting a response to try and get them to the negotiating table. It's all a mix if PR and getting the best deal possible. They dont lose anything, they can always go to purse bids after, but they can't go back to negotiate after, especially if they've annoyed Usyks team by forcing purse bids.
     
  7. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

    1,025
    1,672
    Dec 13, 2024
    Yeah... we are going a bit crazy here while we wait
     
    like a boss likes this.
  8. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

    1,025
    1,672
    Dec 13, 2024
    Yeah I think most would have no problem doing that. Us Kiwis are happy to tear down any countrymen who get too uppity.

    I think its part of the reason that Parker is excessively humble. I'm not joking when I say that if Parker was confident and saying he'd smash Usyk etc like a lot of other fighters do, he would lose fans in NZ.

    But I think its very unlikely that Parker doesn't face a mandatory, he has always fought who is in front of him without complaint.
     
    Kiwi Casual likes this.
  9. Hood.

    Hood. Realist Full Member

    410
    318
    Jul 6, 2022
    The promoters have a pretty close idea to what the fight is worth purse bid wise, I doubt Parker gets offered any more than 20% of that number, so in my opinion, Parker gains nothing by trying to negotiate, a purse bid gets him roughly the same amount. An immediate purse bid probably would have benefitted Parker more than Usyk. Usyk would have had to of made a decision to defend or not very quickly. If he chose to defend & the fight was set for 3 months time, Usyk wouldn't have had this extra month to recover so far & would have to go back into camp much sooner. If he chose to vacate, then Parker would be elevated & possibly planning his first defense already.
     
  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

    11,375
    17,173
    Jul 2, 2006
    If Parker were secretly hoping Usyk vacates, he wouldn't be calling Usyk out for months over and over again.
     
  11. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

    1,025
    1,672
    Dec 13, 2024
    Parker has said he would prefer to fight Usyk for all the belts and lose rather than just get handed a belt. And based on his history, I don't see any reason not to take him at his word.

    I think a goal of his is to make the boxing hall of fame, as well as be a two time champ, so a fight against unified champ Usyk helps his case.
     
    Kiwi Casual, Overhand94 and dmt like this.
  12. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

    11,375
    17,173
    Jul 2, 2006
    Other than Chisora and Usyk himself, its hard to think of a heavyweight who has consistently taken on top notch opposition like Parker, win or lose.

    AJ, Chisora x 2, Whyte, Ruiz, Joyce, Zhang, Wilder and Bakole. And while Wilder was past it and Bakole was last minute, both Zhang and Joyce were the most feared and in form contenders in the division when Parker fought them.

    Parker obviously wants it. And if he doesn't get it, i hope he gets the belt and beats Itauama.

    If Parker doesn't get the Usyk fight, he needs to be given the belt. And then he can defend vs Itauama, Wardley and a couple of others. If he can get the belt and successfully defend it 3-5 times, he is a hall of famer in my book.
     
    Kiwi Casual, Kiwi Fish and Overhand94 like this.
  13. Hood.

    Hood. Realist Full Member

    410
    318
    Jul 6, 2022
    Hence the use of the word "secretly"

    Of course he's not going to openly admit he hopes Usyk vacates.
     
    Wizbit1013 likes this.
  14. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,152
    4,312
    Jul 31, 2021
    Why would Parker hope he vacates? He went at AJ for the unified titles as soon as possible when he was considered the top dog of the division, undefeated with a huge KO ratio.

    You really think he doesn't want a crack at undisputed? If anyone is showing hesitation at the fight, it's Usyk.
     
    Kiwi Fish, NahMateNoWay and dmt like this.
  15. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

    11,375
    17,173
    Jul 2, 2006
    Parkers history suggests otherwise. He has fought the most in form fighters in the division many times - Joshua, Zhang and Joyce. I think dude genuinely wants to be the best and hence, he does not avoid challenges.