¿Who do you think was the ATG with the least qualities in the history of boxing?

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  1. Fabiandios

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    Don't get me wrong. ¿What boxer is considered a ATG by you, but didn't have anything particularly "incredible" as a boxer? A boxer who was perhaps good at everything but not excellent, and that was enough to become a great?
     
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  4. Journeyman92

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    Ah? Example?
     
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  7. themaster458

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    Oscar De La Hoya maybe? Oh Benard Hopkins and Andre Ward might be another good example.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    Carlos Monzon
    Barney Ross
    Carlos Ortiz

    These three are all-time greats of the absolute highest order, and they're all a little unimpressive. At least from a spectacle standpoint - sure they all a very good physical gift - Monzon's dimensions, Ortiz's strength and Ross' chin - but you don't get wowed by them as you'd expect from a top 40 P4Per (or 15 in Ross' case), or at least I don't. I think it's because they basically work everything off of control. All of them are close enough to pure ring generals in the truest sense.
     
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  9. Mandela2039

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    Andre Ward and ATG in the same sentence ✌️
     
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  10. Journeyman92

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    Barney Ross is a good shout… Emile Griffith? We don’t consider him great but he could box great… BUDDY MCGIRT
     
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    Joey Archer anybody? Basilio and Fullmer? Bobo Olson…they’re all obviously gifted as all the best guys are but visually the almighty “eye test” eh - Fullmer is visually abhorrent and offensive.
     
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  12. Mandela2039

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    how i felt after u named 3 of my favorite boxers
     
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  13. Journeyman92

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    ?
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

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