Is Gennady Golovkin pfp greater than Joe Louis

Of course he isn't

 

No one here claimed Louis was "invincible". But pound-for-pound, he fought and beat far better fighters, including genuinely elite punchers that, quite frankly, Lemieux, Jacobs, and Canelo can't compare to.

(Lemieux never stopped a truly world-class opponent, Jacobs rarely stopped one, and Canelo was a welterweight-cum-light-middleweight when GGG fought him.)

Comparing their chins without fairly factoring in the opposition's power, and taking historical context into account is, at best, whimsical.

There's no sensible argument for Golovkin here.

 

The answer is not even close.

Golovkin is better than history will give him credit for.

In my opinion he should have been a lineal champion, and was cheated out of it by some truly unfathomable scoring.

However we are comparing him to Joe Louis here.

A man who held the undisputed title for longer than Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister.

When you talk of fighters who wee greater than Louis, the list of candidates should be very short.

 

Yes, but what happened when Golovkin had people like Lara, Saunders, Charlo, Andrade, etc called him out? He vanished. You can't complain people are ducking you, and then you ignore the people who call you out.

 

If you count Canelo 1 as a win then GGG’s best win is better than Louis’ best win which is brokeback Schmeling. However, Louis has much, much more depth to the point where it’s not really close.

 

The vultures were circling by then.

 

I stand by what I said.

All of the greats dug deep and produced great wins past their athletic peak: Ali, Duran, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Leonard, and Louis himself.

GGG faced a crossroads: big money, or medium money+legacy. He chose big money and revealed his true character, then bowed out without a single defining win over an elite opponent.

 

GGG isn’t a better boxer then Louis from a pure technical perspective IMO… and he isn’t a better champion so I’d have to say no?

 

I stand by what you said.

If he really wanted glory badly enough, he could have tried to set up a fight for lineage, once Canelo was out of the way.

Having said that, he has not present at the birth of one of his children, due to one of the Canelo fights.

The first I think.

 

Never trust Golovkin with a Canelo

 

Lara vs GGG… when could that have happened? I’d have very much liked to see that fight.

 

Yes… but he also choose to fight Canelo for a third time, I think even he knew he wouldn’t win and was too many steps down from his prime for that one, then there’s Muruta? Plus some other guys I don’t really know much about… were they highly regarded or any good? It seems to me he hung on too long looking for the 3rd Canelo payday… disappointing end to his career as a fan, had he went on a tear after 2018 we'd remember him better but the last 4 years before retirement he had 5 bouts I don’t even remember today.

 

I like GGG, but this is clearly a wind up thread.

 

Golovkin would be pure hell as a heavyweight! Imagine a 6-3 230 Golovkin, even a Holyfield size Golovkin.

 

Jacobs, Canelo 1+2 , Derevyanchenko, were top notch wins. I don't care what the official results were.