Whyte v Itauma face off

Itauma's personality reminds me of Dubois but a bit more seasoning.

 

Damn, that was a completely unexpected old head manifesto, lol.

 

Seems more like 1984 to me... With many exhibiting the same paralyzing fear of holding a personal opinion, so choosing to avoid thinking at all.

 

For me these are mostly flipsides of the same coin - one is quiet and the other loud and seemingly brash but yet very predictable and so equally boring.

Genuine personality or eccentricity, and/or the willingness to display either, is the rare thing.

 

I blame social media and how easy it is to record and disperse information these days. Kids are scared shirtless of being posted online doing something stupid or silly.

 

It depends where you place the boundaries on "the good of the sport", surely?

If we're talking about purely level playing-field, clean image and gentlemanly conduct... Then no, you can't be indifferent to PED use and profess to care about those things.

But is that the entirety of what's good for the sport?

Or...
1) Does having healthy numbers of serious competitors matter, and is zero tolerance therefore antithetical to the good of the sport?
2) Does keeping substance abusing cashcows in the sport and maintaining higher numbers of views and more money to tempt people to take up fighting actually benefit the sport?

Would boxing without, say, Canelo, Fury, etc be a better or worse sport?


Heck, let's just pick on 1 division...
If you take the heavyweight division over the past 10 years and remove all the (known/caught) PED users, would it have been more or less interesting - without contenders like Fury, Povetkin and Whyte, without gatekeepers like Miller and Ortiz, etc?


As much as I agree, idealistically, that it would be good in some ways... Would we miss out on some things? Realistically, yes.

 

And they're fully aware that the internet never forgets and morality changes with the wind - sometimes irrationally... Which makes it very dangerous to say anything that isn't exceptionally vanilla.

 

It may have taught you respect, but not for the right reasons. It's comparable to people worshipping God and trying to be good because they fear going to hell, not because they want to actually worship God. Or people in Russia/North Korea showing respect to their government because they fear the consequences if not. No, I'm not comparing your father to Putin or Kim Jong-un, obviously, but you should understand what I'm trying to say. Children should be made to understand why what they've done is wrong, not just obey, out of fear of abuse. That behaviour towards a child would probably get someone arrested nowadays and rightly so. Yes, I DO agree with you though that kids get away with too much these days. 100%. As usual, the world always goes from one extreme to the opposite. I just don't think violence is the right way to teach a child. After all, if you do something wrong in adult life, the law doesn't come round and beat you up (in most cases anyway), instead, you get your liberties taken away and are sent to prison. So instead, a child should learn that if they too, misbehave, they will have their liberties taken away until they can start behaving, whatever them liberties may be. It sets them up for real life.

 

If Whyte really is that vulnerable to uppercuts then Mose's is probably good enough and quick enough to land something significant to end the fight.

But if Whyte is suitably prepared and focused - and doesn't leave his chin hanging out - then he has a good chance to drag this fight into unfamiliar territory for Moses.

 

There's a. Interview up now of him talking about how he doesn't get credit...
Like ffs mate do something worthy of credit before you start talking like this.
If that's the mentality he's taking to the ring against what looks like a fit and motivated Whyte he better be able to back it up.

 

That`s the old 80`s and 90`s mentality of having to beat an American world champ to prove yourself etc.

 

No, he`s far more intelligent despite being so young, Dubois doesn`t even like speaking, his dad controls what he says, he`s a really strange person.

 

Dubious is a blank canvas, crayon eater. low IQ. But loveably dumb because he's clearly stunted and even looks it a little.

Itauma has that roadman hurr durr speech but probably just as dumb as Dubious without the loveability or glaring physical presence. Bit of AJness about him if he has any level of trouble with Whyte then i'm writing him off.

Really need someone to press Ituama with intimidation or smack talk to see what he's about. If he's the goods he won't get hot headed.

 

No, Moses is just a little dull, he`s got an ordinary black guy`s accent, Dubois was sheltered as a child, home-schooled, he`s stunted and child like.

 

Nigerian dad, Slovakian mother. Ituama got that special DNA. I honestly expect him to deliver...but boxing is a complex hurt game. 20 years old. Such a long way to go for him still. Perfect time though given there really arn't many people hanging about but that might be just as much a problem for him if competition or a rival doesn't emerge.