Most impressive: Spinks over 48-0 Holmes , Or Usyk over Undefeated Fury?

It's funny how some people have completely lowered the bar for these current heavyweights but keep the bar high for boxers of 40 years ago.

Fury goes in the Usyk 1 without a win over any real contender in over 2 full years (and that contender was 1-1 in his last two with a 40 year old). Doesn't matter.
Fury goes in Usyk 1 coming off a 10 round split decision against a semi retired 37 year old UFC fighter who was trying boxing match for first time ever. Doesn't matter.
Fury's performances in Wilder 3 and Chisora 3 clearly less impressive than previous fights with younger versions of same fighters (in Chisora case a lot younger). Doesn't matter.
Fury's legs noticeably gone enough for him to change style ever since Wallin, of all people, had him reeling at the end of a 12 rounder 4 1/2 years before the Usyk 1. Commented on at the time. Doesn't matter.
Fury's whole lineal "reign" blighted by inactivity and bodily abuse. 2 1/2 years off after Klitschko win, 20 months off during Covid era. Doesn't matter.
Fury about the same age (a couple of months younger) than Holmes was for Spinks, for Usyk 1. Doesn't matter.

Fury (floored by a UFC guy the fight before) fades severely after 7 or 8 rounds snd almost gets knocked out in 9th by Usyk. Doesn't matter. Apparently that looks a lot better than Holmes doing hard 15 rounds with guys in their 20s.

In Holmes's record in the 5 years leading up to Spinks was what Fury's was in 5 leading up to Usyk, does anyone really think he'd be seen as anything other than completely utterly shot??

 

Calling the lineal UFC HW champ "semi retired" and implying he's just a random UFC fighter is kinda funny ngl. Everything else you said is just pure yap.

 

Even before Fury faced Usyk I thought it was clear thet he himself knew that quick, skilled counter punchers were bad news for him and therefore wanted no part of Usyk.

With that said, he did give Usyk his toughest fight since at least Briedis in the first fight.

 

Every thing I said was true.
Ngannou had not fought in 2 years.

But call him whatever you want. He's not a boxer.
He is not a boxer.
Let that sink in.

 

Do some people really believe Holmes wouldn't have unified if he were payed the same exorbitant amount that Fury was to fight Usyk ? Fury never even unified with Aj and that would've been his biggest possible payday pre Turki.

Someone already said it. Fury retired, did drugs for years, became morbidly obese, lost all his weight quickly on his comeback, chereypicked unranked Otto Wallin and Tom Schwarz after he fought Wilder, cherrypicked an old Chisora and an old mma fighter who never boxed professionally right before the Usyk fights, won a SPLIT DECISION, got dropped unlike Holmes and was the same age as Holmes was against Spinks when Usyk got him.

It makes no logical sense. Fury struggled with Cunningham and has never dominated any decent cruiserweights, this size argument is nonesense. What on earth are people smoking to claim the Fury win is better ?????

 

He became a boxer when he boxed Fury that's how sports work smart one

 

Its called the eye test maybe try it sometime instead of just reading off BoxingRec

 

No it's bias. "Eye test" is so subjective bro. Fury has a much worse legacy and Holmes would have gotten crucified and called a fraud who couldn't live up to Alis shadow if he went life and death with an old UFC fighter in the boxing ring. His atg status would have been revoked by many

Based on Ngannou getting blasted out by aj effortlessly I'm not even certain Ngannou beats prime Butterbean who a 50 year old Holmes played with.

 

Everything is boxing is subjective lol

 

Alrighty then, so prime Butterbean would beat the sh!t out of Ngannou in a boxing ring. Faster, more skilled, more pro experience

 

Cool that's just like your opinion man can't know for sure until they step into the ring, though I think we can all agree who would win an MMA match

 

It was his first boxing match then. Fury struggled with a 0-0 boxer. No amateur boxing record either.
Why are people pretending it's not really bad?
Way too desperate to make 2024 Fury a great win for Usyk.

 

Ngannou sparred with top boxers, he boxed before switching to MMA, Carlos Takam warned that Ngannou was a world class heavyweight before the Fury fight. Takam and others knew Ngannou had experience in the ring with top fighters, knew that he was not going to panic in front of a crowd, or when he got hit, and knew that he could be a tough fight for anybody. Ngannou was beaten by a 6-6, 250 pound, skilled, Olympic champion. Ngannou got caught by one of the most gifted physical boxers in history, that doesn't mean he would be an easy fight for anybody.

 

Here is the official prediction thread: https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/joshua-vs-usyk-the-official-prediction-thread.673798/

Thr forum, which has an ongoing love fest with Usyk, favored Joshua to win.

 

Ngannou was 37, beat nobody, got annihilated by joshua despite being 20 pounds heavier. The only objective evidence is him beating up Fury which says more about Fury because aj destroyed that guy easier than prince Martin and Takam and fanboys love to claim aj was shot going into the Dubois fight so you've got some work to do there. Under no circumstances is the Fury win better, you better not appeal to size when pillowfisted Cunningham who had never fought at heavyweight had Fury on his back and made him admit it was his hardest fight
https://talksport.com/boxing/981570/tyson-fury-hardest-fight-ducking-oleksandr-usyk/