Ken Norton Versus Tyson Fury

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ThatOne, Aug 13, 2025.


Who wins?

  1. Ken

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  2. Tyson

    56.0%
  1. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins this battle of the eras?
     
  2. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Easy win for Fury he either outboxes him at range with his length and trickiness or if that doesn't work out walks him down and mauls him on the inside. Don't really see a path to victory for Norton here.
     
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  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Norton. His jab is going to cause major issues. He can maintain a work rate Fury can't keep up with. And he is a ferocious body puncher.

    The idea of Fury stopping Norton is utterly laughable considering both Holmes and Ali couldn't. And they threw the kitchen sink at him. And yes, both Holmes and Ali were bigger punchers than Fury. I don't care if Fury is 50 lbs bigger just like i don't care if Fury is 50 lbs heavier than Wilder- Wilder is obviously a bigger puncher than Fury.

    Fury isn't Shavers or Cooney in terms of power. Not even close.

    Fury has always struggled with smaller fighters with good defense, good jabs and ones who can maintain a high work rate. Fury will have some success early but he will start to tire. Norton was a brutal body puncher and those powerful hooks to the body will really slow Fury down.

    Norton 8-4 type of decision. If you can't stop him, you are in for a painful night.

    A lot of modernists try to denigrate Norton as some overrated fighter in order to discredit Ali. Truth is Norton is one of the most unique and underrated heavyweights ever. He is amongst the best body punchers and jabbers in heavyweight history. His cross armed defense was highly unique and highly effective. There is no one today who has a style quite like him. It is not a coincidence that he pushed Ali and Holmes (both top 5 heavyweights of all time on any list) to the brink.

    Anyone who isn't a massive Lewis/Iron Mike level of puncher is going to have a nightmare trying to deal with Norton. And that includes the number 1 guy today.
     
  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    The idea of Fury outboxing Norton "easily" is mystifying to me. Is Fury a better boxer than peak Larry Holmes who couldn't "easily" outbox Norton? Is Fury quicker than Larry Holmes? Does he move faster on his feet than Larry? Does he possess a better jab than Holmes? Can be maintain a higher work rate than Holmes?

    "Oh but he is soooo big. 270 lbs of lean muscle". Oh please. Dude was struggling vs 210 lbs Steve Cunningham before resorting to shoving, pushing and dirty tactics. He even admitted he found the smaller man slippery and hard to outbox. But dude who couldn't easily outbox Cunnigham and Otto Wallin will somehow easily outbox Norton, who is a master ring cutter.
     
  5. ThatOne

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    I'm dating myself. I posted this before. I watched Holmes-Norton at a dive bar in DeBary, Florida. There was a pool and i was the only one to vote Norton UD. Everyone else had Larry via KO. I lost my bet, but to this day I still feel I came closer to the actual results.
     
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  7. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'll let you on a little secret but don't tell others okay? Fury has a left hook Holmes doesn't that's the secret to cracking Norton's defense now don't spread it around okay?
     
  8. Warmaster

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    Ken simply outworks him for a UD win. Most modern 'Super heavyweights' are inferior to the slightly smaller, top 70's ones due to their sheer size impacting on their cardio. If they can't bomb out the smaller fighter early, they are cooked. At least part of the reason why Uysk - a 'normal' sized heavyweight is so dominant now. Most of these SH's can't match the pace of Frazier, Ali etc who could do it for 15 rounds. Fury is better in that regard compared to most SH's but it's not enough to outwork Ken who could do 15 rounds at a decent pace without any apparent stamina issues.
     
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  9. dmt

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    Huh? Fury does not have a left hook. He slaps with it and uses it as a decoy. He rarely if ever throws a powerful left hook. His left hook isn't even as good as Ali's and Ali himself was not an ATG hooker.
     
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  11. ThatOne

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    Ali was forced to doing a lot of uppercuts against Kenny in their rubber match becuse of Kenny's cross armed defense and had some success with it with the emphasis on some. IMO Kenny clearly won the first fight, Ali clearly won the second fight, and the third fight was close.
     
  12. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I don't think that Tyson Fury was all that good, but he is very big. I don't think too much of Norton, either. For years now I have read comments about Fury being 'slick' and that is just silliness. He wouldn't show Norton anything that Ken wouldn't have seen in all those rounds with Ali. Again, I don't idealize Ali but he was boxing smart, certainly much more so than Fury.
    But Tyson is very big.
    Fury should win this fight. If he tries to do it by keeping distance and trying to be cute, that gives Norton more opportunity to steal the fight or to catch him with a right hand; if Steve Cunningham hurt Fury, Norton could stop him. Fury should take the fight to close range and lean on Norton, push him back, wear on his legs that way, while using his uppercuts and body punches. Fury makes effective use of that punch. I think that, if he fights that way, Fury would stop Norton in 7-8 rounds.
     
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  13. ThatOne

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    Bob Arum who presumably should know a lot about boxing said Fury moves like a welterweight. I don't see it.
     
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  14. Maginot

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    Fury uses his size to slow the better p4p fighter down. He will lean and clinch, and eventually Norton starts to tire carrying Fury around the ring

    I see Fury getting through to him with a few hard hooks and a straight right and then Norton goes down for the count in round 8.

    Norton will not be able to land a combination to put Fury out. He will have some great counters and moments but the lack of putting it all together costs him. Fury is not going to be hit by several big punches in a row by Norton.

    Norton gives out because endurance is a factor in this one, Fury by KO
     
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  15. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL Tyson Fury's left hook LOL

    Ken Norton puts an all-time ass whuppin on him, TKO 7. The differences in skills are huge. Norton could actually BOX.