Fury's Resume Tonight Just Got Destroyed.....

Here's the issue though you're picking a single fight for someone's prime.

Just a year before the 2nd Chisora Fury had been dropped by Cunningham so is that his prime aswell ?

For example Fury's performance against Wilder 2 is often cited as one of his best performance but prior to that he was in real danger of losing to someone like Wallin so is Wallin part of his prime also ?

But you're not really picking a time frame when Fury's prime actually was you're picking single fights.

Alot of people say Douglas peaked vs Tyson for example but you could say his prime was atleast a 4 year period between 1986-1990 with wins over Page, Berbick, McCall, Tyson, Williams, and a good performance vs Tucker despite losing.

Maybe Fury struggled with the other fighters when he was in his prime aswell ? and it was just due to stylistic issues ?

Fury for example was in good shape vs Wallin he weighed less vs Wallin than what he did against Usyk the 1st time and that would be considered his prime and he still had alot of problems.

I never said Fury was never good i said he's overrated which is different.

Fury is a talented big man but his resume is very thin and his H2H capabilities were overrated.

It's a good win for Usyk based on beating a much bigger man who is a good fighter i've never said Fury wasn't good just that he's overrated.

 

Why 2nd ?

Surely it's below Ali/Frazier, Bowe/Holyfield.

 

Well if that's the case Vitali legitimately lost to Byrd then and never rematched him if we're picking and choosing the narrative.

 

Povetkin was 41 years old and shot and would retire after the Whyte fights.

Joshua did stop Wladimir who Fury failed to stop which is both men's best wins of their career.

Joshua did beat Parker who destroyed Wilder who is Fury's 2nd best win.

See how easy it is to do ?

 

Both beating a shopworn Whyte ? Seems quite clear to me.

 

So you quote a post of mine that is stating facts of what actually transpired in the fights.

And then you think you're being witty with "Dynamicthinker"

I think you need better material or to do more thinking yourself.

 

Fury was in terrible shape for the 3rd fight and Wilder was too heavy he was gassed after a few rounds.

Wilder wouldn't even be a top 30 Heavyweight of all time. Beating Holyfield and Frazier in a trilogy who are amongst the top 10 Heavyweights of all time is more prestigious.

Hence Ali/Frazier-Bowe/Holyfield-----> Fury/Wilder

 

Well I don't rate Usyk as highly as everyone else does he's certainly not in my top 10 let's put it that way.

Usyk is still a great fighter for his Cruiserweight/Heavyweight achievements and the fact he's beaten good Heavyweights with a considerable size disadvantage and the fact he's also willing to travel outside his comfort zone.

But yes I agree to some extent I don't think Usyk rates quite as highly as some people on this forum rate him IMO anyway.

But that's not Usyk's fault he's fought the best opponents avaliable I just don't think the Heavyweights today are that great outside of Usyk who's a stand out Heavyweight and maybe Itauma in regards to the eye test but it's a bit early to say.