Do you believe Otto Wallin was a top 10 heavyweight in the world ?

There is no gotcha here. Jackson's case proves that Top 10 rankings sometimes include people who don't belong there, especially when it comes to number 9 and number 10 spots which can be interchanable with multiple Top 15 guys. It doesn't change the fact that he was rated in the Top 10. Just like Wallin.

 

No....maybe low in the top 30

 

Decisive poll. The question has been answered.

The real question is: will the 4 posters (we know who they are) who believe Otto was top 10 admit that he clearly was not? Their entire motivation is to try to make Joshua's unimpressive past 7 years somehow look less bad, but what's the point? Joshua just got completely blown out by Dubois. It's over. Let's just reel it in and admit that Otto is, was, and always will be trash not worthy of the top 10.

 

Atm
No idea
Possibly somewhere between 10 - 20 I would guess?

Was he ever a top 10?
I guess you would have to look who was around at the time I suppose
His resume is respectful -
Gassiev
Breazeale
Kauffman
Granat

I think he is remembered for giving Fury a tough fight

I guess at one time when his name was recognised
He only had one loss to Fury in a tough fight, and then wins over Gassiev, Breazeale, Kauffman, Granat
That could be arguably better ovrerall than some of the current top 10
So I guess it would be who was around at the time

 

Usyk
Joshua
Fury
Kabayel
Parker
Hunter
Dubois
Hrgovic
Bakole
Sanchez
Ajagba
Ruiz
Zhang
Joyce
Chisora

for starters. Maybe guys like Pero, Franklin, Miller, Wilder

 

No chance. He’s got 1 semi decent win on his record and that was against a cruiser.

Top 20 maybe.

 

Yeah, that would be probably his maximum - to beat any of those you've added

 

Yes, Wallin was ranked in the top 10 between the Gassiev and Joshua fights by Ring, TBRB, ESPN, Boxrec, BadLeftHook, WBC, IBF and WBO.

He was clearly a consensus top 10 fighter for a brief period.

 

Was he? Did he beat someone besides a top 50 ranked Gassiev who had never, and still has never, recorded a credible HW win? I must have missed that.

No one in this thread seems to agree, by the way.

 

Yes he was, and it’s clear if you read anything from late 2023 that most considered him to be part of the top 10.

I’ve spent a lot of time researching boxing history, and this demonstrates why it’s important to get sources from as close to the time period as possible.

In the actual year 2023, as evidenced by contemporary sources, Wallin was a ranked contender with consensus recognition.

In the fictional year 2023 which is constructed in hindsight from 2025, Wallin was never a top 10 fighter and it was obvious to everyone that he was limited and couldn’t compete.

It does nobody any favours to pretend that the rankings were different to what they were, or to rewrite history with the knowledge of what came afterwards.

Any rating system which existed at the time could only look backwards, and the computerised ratings of Boxrec and the Human Expert ratings of Ring and TBRB, and the journalists, and the fans, all had to make a decision based on previous results and/or forecast potential. They did so, and they all put Wallin in the top 10.

I would also note that @Rumsfeld had Wallin at #14 in early 2023 before the Gassiev fight, so his prior record must have been respectable enough to be in the conversation even at that point.

 

Sometimes it is hard to remember the pool at a given time or span of time.

When he first made it maybe. HW was pretty poor. I mean I liked Pulev and Leapai once but it was never because they were actually good, like atg or anything, just better than the frankensteins and short fat old men around them.

I recognize Pulev was a frankenstein and Alex was a short, fat, old, man, my point was they were once the good ones in a sea of dudes just like them but worse.

Povetkin was never good, just better than trash ass Mormeck and co.

When Wilder was champion and Wlad was still a lingering threat, like 2015ish, Wallin was probably up there, like legitimately.

 

Reality and opinion are not the same thing. Why not acknowledge that people who thought he were top 10 were likely wrong.

You can acknowledge that many people believed something while also acknowledging they were wrong.

 

An account with very few posts that was created in 2018 rushes in to reference an obscure boxing rankings board that very, very few posters have ever mentioned. How curious.

Otto Wallin was never a top 10 fighter and it's clear to everyone. See the poll results above.

 

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/how-do-you-rank-the-current-top-10-heavyweights.713265/

Wonder how many changed there vote???