Compare Deontay Wilder and Rocky Marciano from a technical standpoint

Wilder is better at sucking in everything. That's about it.

 

All Wilder can do is step back and unload a right hand ( he needs a ridiculous amount of room for it) and hope the other guy falls. There was no Plan B. The fact that a goof like that “reigned” as long as he did is Exhibit A against any argument that boxing is evolving into something better. Stop the nonsense.

The two aren’t comparable. In style or substance.

 

I say this as someone who isn't very high on Marciano at all but this is disrespectful to Marciano lol, they're not comparable.

 

One fighter is unorthodox and effective. The other fighter (Wilder) just plain sucks. Were he not born with great power, he wouldnt crack the top 50 in his era.

 

Only one of them has a technical standpoint. So that makes it difficult to compare.

 

Marciano is an all time great and had subtle and effective skills in many areas...whereas Wilder had nothing other than a right hand. KO1 Marciano 500 times out of 500

 

Wilder was far more dangerous, had a far more effective trump card and he leaned on it hard which you can not blame him for.

And no he didn't just lean back and throw the right hand. The Szpilka was a nice underneath counter against an advancing opponent... and deadly.

All I know is that Don Cockell wouldn't have seen the 2nd minute against WIlder let alone the 9th round.

 

Wilder is one of the most gifted athletes in the history of the heavyweight division. He is long, powerful, explosive, and carried his power the entire fight. He started boxing as an adult in a state that is not known for boxing programs, gyms, or trainers. His fights were exciting and IMO one of his most underrated talents is that he could create and close distance faster than any boxer I've seen.

DW was not taught the fundamentals as a beginner in the way he would have been taught in a good gym, with a good trainer, but his natural talent got him a long way. DW's technical fighting worked for him, it probably wouldn't work for anybody else. He could have been much better if a good fundamental trainer had trained him from the start, but his physical talent was so good that he was probably the most dangerous heavyweight to ever fight. DW was a natural talent but not a fighter to emulate.

Rocky Marciano moved like the Tin Man IMO. His footwork/balance looks terrible. I've never heard a trainer or fighter say "I want to learn to do ________ like Marciano." There are people who say that RM was better than he looked on video. I'll have to take their word for it. I can't watch him fight. I watched his fight with JJW for a Fight of the Week and was amazed at how clumsy and inept RM looked in the ring.

 

Only fools believe Marciano was amateurish. He was insulted w that early in his career but his opponents all learned the truth. He was far trickier than advertised. Hard to hit, excellent at countering the jab, feints etc. had power in both hands and the best stamina u could have. Wilder was easy to hit with only one tool. He beat no one of note in his career. He’s overrated…prob the biggest waste of talent ever in boxing history because he could have been a modern Louis if he took his craft seriously

 

Wilder has no technical ability whatsoever.

 

Neither guy deserves to have the word "technical" mentioned in the same sentence where they're mentioned.

But that aside, Rocky was overall better than Wilder. He was decent at dipping and rolling awkwardly to avoid getting pummeled by a barrage. He was good at lining his man up for his short right hands and had that nifty gazelle punch/hook. Rocky could get wild and clumsy, but he sometimes used that to his advantage immediately returning with something big to catch people off guard or rolling out the way. He was a street brawler with decent boxing fundamentals and incredible heart and stamina wearing you down with sheer volume and grit. Most crucially, Rocky could be an effective combination puncher and body puncher, 2 dimensions Wilder never bothered working on other than the last Fury fight.

Wilder did have some decent lateral movement and a sense of distance. He knew how to play to his strengths as a tall, lanky sniper with devastating power and didn't really bother developing anything else. This made him predictable, but it also made him dangerous from round 1-12 as his power never went away and he was damn good at eventually landing that nuke of a right. Wilder didn't merely spam punches hoping something connected, he knew how to lull his opponents into a false sense of security only to suddenly explode similar to Ingemar Johanson. Other than that, Wilder didn't really have any subtle skills or ring IQ to speak of, had a very basic guard, and lacked in the basics relying on his height and athleticism to compensate.

 

Pretty tough guy with good recovery too

 

I think people are prone to exaggeration in regards to Wilders technical ability. It was not good or even decent by any stretch of the imagination but to say he had no skills whatsoever is completely ridiculous.