Is Canelo vs Crawford just

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  1. TNSNO1878

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    Crawford might start well, but as soon as he feels the power of Canelo, he'll throw him off his game plan. Gamboa and Mean Machine have hurt Crawford in the past. I would only give him a chance if he beat Madrimov in the same manner he beat Spence; that would be the only indicator to me that he had the power to trouble Canelo.

    He struggled against Madrimov at 154, and now he's going up two more divisions after one fight there. He's also 38 next month and chronically inactive. As great as Bud is, he's not great enough to pull this off. I think it's more likely to play out like Hopkins vs De La Hoya rather than Garcia vs Spence. I give Crawford essentially zero chance and would be gobsmacked if he pulled it off.
     
  2. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd give Crawford a better chance if he was a bit younger but I think the weight jump factoring his age will be too much. It isn't just a number on a scale, he's in with an opponent who is significantly stronger, more durable and harder hitting than he's used to and he's been hurt by much smaller men in the past. Only way he wins is if Canelo is completely shot and the last non-performance against the runner was not just an aberration.
     
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  3. Glass City Cobra

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    What an absurd comparison.

    Spence was significantly more skilled than Mikey. People wrote it off as Spence simply being the bigger, stronger fighter who'd out muscle Mikey, but the opposite happened. Spence deliberately put on a clinic to silence the people claiming all he could do was overpower smaller guys to win.

    Furthermore, Spence was taller with a longer reach. Crawford seems to be a smidgen taller than Canelo with longer arms. He also certainly isn't going to just coast to a points loss not bothering to dig deep and try to win...at least he better not or boxing historians will eviscerate his resume.
     
  4. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bud has good defence but he's not slippery enough like Floyd to stand infront and evade Canelo's punches, or long enough like Bivol to move out the way. That means he's gonna have to ship some damage. He's lucky Canelo is a shadow of the version who fought GGG in 2018.

    Sadly it's probably a boring fight where Crawford nicks some rounds earlier then gets gunshy in the middle and later rounds and Canelo wins a close decision. Crawford can not let Canelo hit him so will have to move (Boring) Canelo work rate has slowed down due to age so he wont throw much either (boring).
     
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  5. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pretty much, only chance is Canelo is shot which he could be
     
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  6. siberianrocky

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    I am a Bud fan but it is hard to disagree. This fight is basically a fraud. I would have rather seen what Bud could do at 154. 154 is already a stretch for a guy who fought at 135-140 in his physical prime. He had already moved up to welterweight. Bulking up to hang at 168 just means he is going to have an off night. He is going to be slow. Canelo is a terrible match up to do this against.
    I actually think this fight is going to really hurt Bud's legacy. Capping off a great career with the ultimate cash out. I have $200 on Canelo at -180 because people aren't being realistic. Bud is a massive underdog in this fight. +800 at least.
    I just don't see how an old and slow Bud is going to even be competitive at this weight against such a durable and skilled fighter as Canelo.
    The tell is in how this fight is being framed as Bud having this massive skill advantage. If it is framed as two of the most skillful fighters of this era, then the fraud is obvious with the one guy going up to a weight class he has absolutely no business fighting at.

     
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  7. Bofo24

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    Doubt it. Bud is big himself, and he is physically very strong with long reach. He was apparently stronger than Spence who was supposedly the bigger and stronger guy. He was just shorter in height. His jabs budged Spence. It will be a close fight.
     
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  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, my opinion as well
     
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  9. JusABoxinFan

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    It's more of a Roy Jones vs James Toney than a Mikey vs Spence.....

    Not saying Crawford comes out on top, but Mikey in no way was prepared to expose anything about Spence's flaws. The power wasn't there, the IQ wasn't either. On the flip side, that fight had me questioning just how "powerful" Spence actually is as well. He had a lightweight in front of him and not once was Mikey visibly hurt throughout the 12 rounds. It's not like Mikey was skating away from contact either. This was well before all the injuries his fans use as excuses to his flaws.
     
  10. JusABoxinFan

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    Yea, that's the more realistic take. I have friends who are diehard Canelo supporters and diehard Crawford supporters, and both parties truly believe with all their hearts that their fighter is going to win the fight easily. Some have a somewhat logical breakdown of why their guy has the big advantage.

    Honestly, I think this fight is going to be based on IQ, distance, and stamina. Both bring tools to be successful, we just don't know how each will be able to deal with the other for 12 rounds. Neither has fought an opponent that is just like their opponent. Crawford has faced bigger guys, but none like Canelo. Canelo has faced smarter punchers with defense, but not exactly like Crawford.

    It will be a good bout..... My only complaint is that we don't have a loaded undercard leading up to this match up.
     
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  11. JusABoxinFan

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    I doubt many boxing fans understand how hard it is for someone to look "stellar" vs an opponent who goes out their way not to engage. Y'all keep bringing up Crawford vs Madrimov, a fighter who changed up everything he does to keep from getting stopped, including throwing zero combinations the first 6 rounds of the fight to keep from being counter. And then when he did decide to engage, he was visibly hurt 3 different times from round 8 to 12. Compare Madrimov's offense vs his opponent prior to Crawford, to his offense vs Crawford....and even Vergil Ortiz. His signature punches were non existent.

    Bud had repeatedly stated this fight is about legacy, yet so many keep trying to push it's for a payday..... As if Turki will only give him a bag if he was fighting Canelo. Yes, $$ comes with a Canelo fight, but I don't understand why it is that some don't want to accept the fact that Crawford is "daring to be great"..... The quote that was often used when Charlo, & Berlanga, & even Khan, stepped in the ring to fight Canelo. 3 names who didn't deserve to share that stage with Canelo. And other than Khan, their performances showed they were simply there for the paycheck.

    This fight is set up with the two most decorated active fighters going head to head. Neither are in their prime, but they still are fighting at a world class level. This is a match up that forums like this, use in unrealistic scenarios for the sake of discussion and debate..... Hell, on this actual site, there was a thread that talked about a Crawford vs Canelo match up back when Crawford was still a welterweight coming off of the Khan stoppage. No one paid much attention to the concept, including Crawford who was asked about it in an interview and responded with, "nah never..... he's 3 divisions up"..... Fast forward a few years, Crawford has physically matured and been preparing to go to that weight class for over a year now.

    I'm interested in seeing the battle of IQ and adjustments between the 2. Who knows how long we will have either fighter in the sport going beyond this fight.
     
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  12. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    You guys don't think Spence having a horrible car accident before that fight had anything to do with it and for the record I picked Crawford to smoke Spence
     
  13. heerko koois

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    Here in the Netherlands the fight will be"free"on netflix !
     
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  14. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This wi;ll be a very close fight imo
     
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  15. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would like to think Crawford is at least going to try to win unlike Mikey
     
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