Is… is it time again? Wilder vs Marciano 15rds

In 1950's feet and inches Deontay is just 5-7.

 

This fight would prob look like Holyfield v Valuev except Marciano had a ton more power and stamina then a 90 year old Holy and Valuev had more skill then a prime wilder (not saying much for either). The jab never really bothered Marciano because he had a great style to counter it. His whole style centered around him being short and using it to his advantage. Great fighters control distance. Usyk, Ali, Frazier, Louis, Marciano etc were all great at making opponents fight at their pace and distance. The great ones make you fight their fight. Marciano imposed his will on everyone he fought. He often fought men w massive reach advantages and it did nothing for them. I wouldn’t expect it to help Wilder in the slightest. He is def capable of scoring a flash knock down though.

 

If you think jabs didn't bother Marciano you need to look at photos of him the morning after the Louis fight.

 

You’ve brought this up in the past. The fight speaks volumes not Marciano’s poor skin. His defense also wasn’t at its peak yet. Which is clear on film. That being said he still wasn’t bothered by one of the best jabbers the sport had ever seen (he still had his jab). Marciano controlled the distance and pace

 

Louis at that point of his career was absolutely not “one of the best jabbers the sport had ever seen”.

 

I swear to god until I learned the truth I thought Louis was like 50 against Marciano. Dude looked ANCIENT in there.

 

He still had a fine jab. His ability to pull the trigger on the right though was def lost.

 

Wilder is 5x more skilled than Valuev, but that aside, good as Marciano was at imposing his will, his best opponents were 40 year old LHWs. Closing the distance on those guys is one thing, doing it against a 6’7 dude with decent jabs and a life-ending punch + explosiveness is another, especially with feet as slow as Marciano’s.

 

He wasn't one of the best jabbers at that stage of his career.

 

Wilder has literally no skills…none. Terrible footwork terrible combos terrible head movement no feints no tactics just bomb squad…he does have speed and a decent chin but he literally has no skills. None.

 

Last thing a fighter will lose is their jab. His jab alone won him like seven fights in a row prior to the Marciano bout. I don’t know how on one hand u can say he was jabbing Marciano great and on the other say he lost his jab. He was jabbing just as well as any fight I’ve seen him in. It was everything else that went on him. No right slower feet etc. Marciano prob doesn’t get enough credit for making him look old as he prevented Louis from doing what he wanted the whole fight. Louis looked a little better a few weeks prior in other bouts (obviously still old). Marciano just exposed him for what he was at the time.

 

If Wilder could actually fight ( At least on the level of any average past era's boxer)
This would be an extremely easy choice to make.
Because, size, (Especially height and reach.) weight, speed and power would all favor him , and substantially.
But the problem is Wilder isn't a good boxer. His skill set is unbelievable bad.
He pushes and telegraphed his jab. Telegraphed his right hand, looped and hit with the inside of his fist, windmill fashion ( Or like a school girl)
Very poor balance, and his legs would show wear and tear as early as five rds.
Marciano for all of his limitations knew how to fight. He knew what worked for him, and how best to take advantage of what his best attributes were.
Could Wilder adjust to the much shorter Marciano and his entire fight plan of staying with in his reach, in the relative safety of being in close.
Wilder needed range to land his bombs for maximum effectiveness.
What if he didn't get that? And what if he at the same time is getting hit hard in area he's not accustomed to , like his hips, sides, thighs, etc. And that opponent could fight at
a extreme and much higher pace. what if that opponent had a much bigger gas tank, and will to endure and win?
Marciano isn't as over matched against Wilder as some may believe.
And definitely not as over matched as he would be as against Lennox Lewis for an example.

 

I'm saying he couldn't get out of the way of the jab and he confirmed that himself.

Louis' legs went on him in that fight.

 

Moore was not an all time puncher at heavyweight.

Q How many ranked heavyweights did he stop?
A.2 Bivins & Lavorante.

Wilder also stopped 2 Stiverne and Ortiz x2.