What's wrong with Deontay Wilder resume?

People he viably could have and should have fought, were Vlad, Joshua and Whyte. Not adding Povetkin because he popped.

Those three names would greatly enhance Wilder's resume and he avoided fights against them even though they were there.

 

Wilder had a carefully crafted career and was extremely coddled because he has a Glass Jaw. He has no Chin. None.

 

Yeah, even two of many stiffs he fought - Dustin Nichols and Harold Sconiers - had him on the canvas. To say nothing of all the other bums who put him on ***** street.

And of course as soon as he faced a live body, Fury - who was not exactly known for his power - his glass jaw got shattered.

 

Ahh, okay. Appreciate.... That's just one of those questions that's best answered with a "side eye" gesture.....lol

 

Nothing, it's a pretty awesome record with some big names like molina and breazeale who both fought for Joshua's belt and Helenius who fought Whyte and Joshua. Also Szpilka who faced Chisora when he was shot. Ortiz was the bogeyman of the division and an incredible boxer albeit old. Stiverne needs no introduction, one of the top 10 of the era. Arreola faced V. Klitschko for the WBC belt and Wilder planted him also. He also beat former WBC champion Liakhovich. He beat Duhaaupas who is 6 foot 5

 

I question whether those specific guys were the best fighters of Wilder's generation, especially Vitali and Hunter. Given that Vitali retired due to old age in 2012, and Hunter wasn't even a pro yet. Yet, somehow, they're both in Wilder's "generation." Seems like you're just pulling names out of a hat.

Also, when people talk about the last generation of heavyweights, Luis Ortiz's name certainly comes up a lot more as a top heavyweight in that era than Michael Hunter's does.

But, using your list provided ... Wilder had four fights with those guys on your list.

Wilder had more fights with those guys on your list than Vitali did (Zero).
Wilder had more fights with those guys on your list than Hunter did. (One)
Wilder had more fights with those guys on your list than Ruiz did. (Three)
Wilder had more fights with those guys on your list than Parker did. (Three)
Wilder had more fights with those guys on your list than Wlad did. (Three).

USING YOUR OWN LIST, only Joshua had more fights with guys on your list than Wilder did. Joshua had ONE more (Five).

In fact, if you replace Hunter with Luis Ortiz, and Ortiz was certainly a better fighter than Hunter and highly ranked at heavyweight for much longer in that era ...

SUDDENLY WILDER HAS MORE FIGHTS with those guys THAN ANYONE on the list. (Six) Which is probably why you left Ortiz off the list.

It would've been SEVEN fights if Povetkin hadn't blown his prefight drug test.

Nothing is wrong with Deontay Wilder's resume. If you rightfully included Ortiz on the list of the top heavyweights from his generation, Wilder had more fights with the top guys than ALL of them.

Also, Fury-Wilder I and III were all-time classics. Fury-Wilder III was the Fight of the Year. (None of the others you listed were involved in a Fight of the Year winner.)

Deontay Wilder had a great career. Better than just about every name on that list of yours.

(LOTS OF WILDER THREADS TODAY. You guys must be really worried Usyk is going to fight Deontay.)

 

Wilder turned pro in 2008

Hunter's best series of wins were 2018-2019, overlapping Wilder's title reign.

He wasn't among the best. His best wins were Thompson and Jennings, one tarnished by a PEDs bust.

Three losses and a draw, so...

Three losses and a draw. But generations overlap and Wlad and Vitali had more from previous times. Ruiz and Parker actaully managed to win some. Even Hunter has Bakole.

As above. You would be the only guy who would think that taking on some decent opponents 12 years into your career and losing is an accomplishment.

No, wins against Thompson and Jennings sandwiched around a PEDs bust don't make you better than Hunter.

Belated losses. Congratulations on the most spurious logic that has ever been employed on this site.

Fair play. He was going to fight him mando until Povetkin blew it.

Except that it is absolute and total crap.

Two losses and one draw.

I guess that is why he stands the test of time as Boxrec's #83 ranked heavyweight of all time...a ranking pretty well mirrored by by voting around here when we had a thread on it.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...eavyweight-ranking-were-does-he-stand.735402/

I am actually hoping that Usyk fights Parker and then goes out on a performative fight like Wilder, Beterbiev, or Peirera.