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1-) Lyle was ahead on scorecards against Ali before the TKO and KTFO of Shavers. Was ranked #5 in 1976.

2-) Norton was TKO’d after multiple knockdowns, it wasn’t his chin that was the issue, he was just not good at the time, he had 0 issues in the rematch. Ali and Holmes couldn’t hurt Norton once in 4 total fights and neither could Quarry in a slugfest, Norton’s chin was fine unless he was fighting with a earth-shattering fella.

3-) Shot fighters don’t beat tf out of Bugner, brutalize Quarry or damn near kill Ali a year after Ali beat Foreman. This idea that Frazier suddenly went from peak-of-my-life to shot old man in the span of two years is not correct, he was still beating anyone not named Foreman and Ali quite decisively.

4-) I don’t know why you are clinging so much onto Lyle, he was just a dangerous contender Foreman had his eyes on after a lay-off, Norton and Frazier are much better wins.

 

A cruiserweight with bad stamina, a bad defence and someone who has never fought a serious guy who held a size advantage over him? The guy who was almost felled completely in Rd1 by the first right hand Lyle landed? That guy?

 

I don’t either, but I can’t agree he was shot for Sanchez , he won his next half a dozen fights by stoppage before he won the title 3 years later…he may have been a bit shot by Nelson

 

It should be noted that when Gomez won the fw title it was a nicely wrapped hometown gift. But watch many of his later fights at 122, his legs were gone then.

 

So Lyle beat??? Shavers got it, Norton lacked confidence and got stopped instead of KO’d does that make you feel better? - we can agree to disagree about Frazier but everything points to him being shot.

 

Almost is the key word, Wlad would be scared to death of Foreman’s power, he was kayoed by nobodies.
Yet…people defend that, for some reason. But detract from Foreman ? Why?

 

Super impressive that he beat a guy who was in prison just recently for 6 years of his prime and a LHW that he lost to before, Foreman ran over a guy that was recently 1-1 with Ali.

 

You seem knowledgeable of Gomez but he was knocking out quality opposition for several years after Sanchez, it’s surely a stretch to say he was a shot fighter

 

1-) Good performances don’t disappear just because you lose, otherwise Usyk’s HW resume sucks.

2-) Whatever Norton’s issue was, it wasn’t the chin against Garcia. Norton showed plenty of chin when he wasn’t against a guy that could topple a building with a hook, especially when he was still in his peak.

3-) Nothing really does apart from hearsay stories, performance-wise Frazier was merely a fighter that had seen better days but was still at a really high level and at the top of the division.

 

Speaking of shot fighters, a 45 year old man can beat the guy who just beat Holyfield for the title, and receives no credit because he didn’t have a tedious bum of the month reign like the inferior Klit brother.

 

I think Im gonna make my HW debut, beat whoever has the WBO belt and defend it against 20 different bums from Nebraska, should put me above Foreman in an all-time list.

 

Newer posters will never experience the legend of TUAminator. At one point he was being picked in every single fantasy match up he was in

 

You are correct; he had more fights between Sanchez and the end of his career than I remembered. I should have known that because he stopped my friend Roberto Rubaldino after the Sanchez fight and I always thought it was before.

 

@NoNeck i think the Foremanics have ran out of code, now they’re just restarting the program to troubleshoot

 

Aye but a shot fighter can still win fights, Hopkins made his way to the history books like that.