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Frazier only ever lost to Ali and Foreman.
He had two fights between beating Ali and the Foreman fight, he won them both by stoppage
He was (barely) 29
He was unbeaten.

To claim he was washed up, an alcoholic, finished
Complete BS

 

Oh so he was shot because he lost to Foreman and Foreman fought a shot Frazier because.... Frazier was an undefeated world champion who got hit alot and beat Joe Bugner right after ? Lol. Gtfo

Those defenses mean nothing here. Frazier didn't look any declined, but you claim an undefeated world champion was shot because he lost to Foreman....... Your whole post is damn near circular logic and unsubstantiated.

 

He destroyed 4 good fighters all of whom he had a huge physical advantage over. That's doesn't make you a top 5 HW. Ali, Louis, Wlad, Lewis, Holmes, Tyson Holyfield, Usyk are all above him. Arguably Frazier and Marciano as well

 

All this thread has shown is that you can't tell when a fighter is in decline

 

Then please show me footage that shows Frazier in decline pre Foreman since you're standing up

Do you even have a clue what shot means? How you defining it here ? How idiotic can someone be to claim an undefeated world champion who scored his best win 2 years prior and demolished his last 2 opponents is shot

 

Man with Foreman avatar is compelled to make unnecessary retort.

I've thoroughly proven my point already by inciting....

 

Rubbish, how can Lewis be above him if Uncle Jimmy is such a blemish for Foreman? He’s above Lewis.
He’s above Holyfield
Usyk hasn’t done nearly enough to be ahead of him.
Wlad was knocked out by 3 relative nobodies…he’s nowhere near
Tyson is debatable, prime Foreman destroys him though.
Ali, Louis and Holmes are probably above him. He’s top 5 all day.

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He sent Frazier in to the next realm, hard to put Joe above him when he was literally beaten like a ginger stepchild

 

At the end of the day, Foreman is top 5.
Most boxing historians have him such, even Dundee said he was 2nd best heavyweight
Most credible lists have him somewhere around top 5.
One can argue all one wants, ‘appeal to authority’…or just see the results and give him his dues like any objective fan ?

 

Typical Foremaniac behaviour you guys are the new Marciano fans.

 

Also Ali > Foreman > Frazier > Tyson > Marciano > Vitali > Usyk > Wlad

 

Another one was Manny Pacquiao.

 

Woah… Dundee called his most famous fighters signature win the 2nd best HW of all time? Shocking.

 

If it wasn't for the fact that smaller and less powerful guys than Foreman have competed and won titles at heavyweight in recent decades i wouldn't be correcting you about your agenda, but here we are

 

But was he wrong or too far off the mark ? Absolutely no.
Uncle Angelo is bang on

 

If nothing else I’m just happy to see Uncle Jimmy become a forum term