Prime Joshua was a monster

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  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua's decline came when his confidence got knocked and self doubt crept in.

    Someone like James Toney could get KOd but come back the same ignoramus tough head the next fight but most people can't.
     
  2. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    He does get underrated now. Should have gone the Wlad route and changed his style to protect his weak chin.

    Also the way they drugged him against Andy was one of the most blatant and disgusting things the sport has ever done.
     
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  3. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any version of Joshua was vulnerable and incomplete, Wlad and Povetkin beat themselves out of fear because they thought Joshua was an unstoppable force...
     
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  4. StiffJab

    StiffJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the truth. Parker and Whyte to a lesser degree too.
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Don't know about monster, but he was very good. He had enough that Wilder and Fury intentionally avoided him.
     
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  6. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love a good fiction story.
     
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  7. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    AJ had a good run and he did beat some good fighters, but he got exposed enough as a fighter in all of his losses.
     
  8. Bofo24

    Bofo24 hobbyist Full Member

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    "I'd buy that for a dollar."
     
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  9. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So like most of Mike Tyon's opponents or so they say...
     
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  10. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They are different fighters so easier said than done.
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    The biggest thing that hurt Wlad against AJ was the 15 months off or whatever it was. Remember he was supposed to rematch Fury but Fury had a complete mental breakdown and it cost Wlad months of inactivity. AJ is a Glass Jawed Fighter and he also has no Ring IQ. That’s a bad combination to have. Imagine if he had Vitali Klitschko’s Chin and Floyd Mayweathers Ring IQ.
     
  12. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    He's a very good fighter with two very bad losses (the losses to ATG Usyk were not bad and actually good performances - Usyk was just better). Good resume.

    Beaten by Ruiz beacuse he traded at close range with a decent puncher with very fast hands. Terrible game plan.


    Absolutely destroyed by Dubois because he was mentally unprepared and fought like a novice.

    So very good fighter but can be week mentally and not great ring iq.
     
  13. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He hasn’t been the same since the first Ruiz fight mentally, even slightly before then, not mentally, but technically, he shifted to messing around with this low left hand that didn’t suit him at all, he was never fluid enough for that, it started around the Povetkin fight.
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    He got up didn't he? Got caught on the temple.

    Lewis got brutally knocked out twice but still gets ranked in the top 10 or top 5 all time HW by virtually everyone.

    His flaw is mental not physical.
     
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  15. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Well said. See I can compliment when you make a decent astute point.