1974 George Foreman vs 2017 Anthony Joshua: Does Foreman make it to the finish line

No In his prime GF was 217lbs-ish, against Norton he was heavier but also wearing boots and jeans at the weigh in… against Ali they were roughly the same size. Foreman was actually the one who was handled in the clinch, Ali noted the hype on Foreman’s overinflated size, the version who was heavier was a “post prime” “brain fried” Foreman that people don’t like to use who got punked by Jimmy Young… Like Marciano prime Foreman against the guys who came after him would be 20-40lbs heavier. Which super heavyweights did Old Foreman share the ring with? He specifically avoided them actually lol.

 

Anyone who thinks Foreman wouldn't knock out AJ without too much trouble in the early rounds of their bout is seriously kidding himself, ****ing Dubois touched him and got ragdolled like a Garry's Mod prop

He's lucky Ngannou did not land a single meaningful punch in their fight, MMA fans would be talking about how a debutant primitive only punching power Shavers like UFC Champ went 2-0 against the best heavyweights at the moment.

 

There’s no evidence to suggest Foreman stands up to AJ’s power either… or is there? I can only think of one time Foreman fought a puncher in the 70s and he didn’t look exactly sturdy… I do think Foreman overcome’s AJ a lot like Marciano would Liston by being a tenacious little terrier type.

 

Diminishing returns. Marciano comparisons only make sense if your pitting Marciano against smaller heavyweights and most don't object to him beating small heavyweights. Nobody manhandled Ali either

Usyk was 217 against Chisora that weight is fine especially when Foreman has KO power. Savarese was a SHW. Joshua artificially put on mass, naturally he isn't much bigger than Briggs who probably hits harder than Aj. Foreman was well past his prime so the point still stands. Also Foreman regularly showed up above 220lb in the 70s. He was around his prime the whole decade, certainly closer to it compared to the 90s

 

You are basically making things up when you talk about “diminishing returns” cutting off at Marciano… convenient that it protects your favourite HW’s… now you’re talking about “natural” size? You can just look X-ray them? Wtf are you on about? “Artificial” muscle? Opposed to the different kind Foreman had doing manual labour or something? I don’t understand? Are you flip flopping on if he’s either clean or not now too? Once not long ago you were saying the 70s guys had PED’s too… weird. Usyk was 217lbs against Chisora and Conn was 168lbs vs Louis they could do that because of HOW they fought.

 

If you're arguing diminishing returns dont exist and are irrelevant in regards to the situation you've already lost the argument. It's a real mathematical phenomenon, otherwise I'd love you to list 15 examples of fighters below 200 pounds overcoming a weight difference of 20 pounds in order to prove your case, because weight differences like that and bigger are regularly overcome at heavyweight

You don't understand because you're making up arguments in your head, i haven't mentioned PEDs once. Briggs easily blew up to the 260s later in his career and packed on muscle like joshua is the point. As a matter of fact he was BIGGER than joshua when he wanted to put on mass, but he wasn't a better fighter just because he was bigger and Foreman was like 50 years old and arguably beat him lol. Briggs is also faster than aj and probably hits as hard or harder at 225lb, so what is the relevance of joshuas size again ? Briggs isn't small in comparison. Are you just trying to say joshua is bigger therfor he beats foreman ? What are you even arguing ? You admitted Foreman wins this fight posts ago

 

I said Foreman overcomes the large gap in physical inferiority for similar reasons as Marciano… I don’t know why this is hard to understand? Small heavy’s can beat big ones.

 

Agreed, smaller heavyweights can beat bigger ones, but mainly because we've already seen it several times, not because of hypothetical wishful thinking. Even Marciano beat a Super heavyweight in Jackson, but weight matters less the bigger you get, so it's not exactly the same even though there is some truth to it

 

Lmao Foreman was 230 lbs even as a 19 year old amateur, he just cut a lot of weight as a pro. No different than how Wilder is 215 lbs but can physically handle the likes of Luis Ortiz (240 lbs).

And I love the hypocrisy of saying Foreman is physically weaker (not specific to AJ, that guy might legitimately be stronger) because he is smaller but insisting that he is also a slowpoke even in comparison to SHWs.

 

In his prime GF is slower, weaker and smaller then AJ if you’re referring to my discussion with Marky Mark.

 

Foreman is faster than AJ and I don’t see AJ’s strength being much of a factor when Usyk was bullying him in the clinches.

 

I can't think of a match-up I'd be more confident about betting on.

Foreman W KO (inside six rounds).

 

AJ is a better technician but I don't know if he can recover from Foreman's shots.

 

This.

Foreman KO's the bigger man.

Mentally, very much tougher.