1974 George Foreman vs 2017 Anthony Joshua: Does Foreman make it to the finish line

Doesnt really matter when both were clearly rocked and hurt.

In any case, doesn’t matter, point is Wilder doesn’t get steam-rolled physically just because he is 215 lbs.

 

We know nothing about that. PED use was probably rampant in the 70s. Foreman was a natural heavyweight regardless

 

Nah, see, you don't get it. Foreman only weighed 230 because of extra fat, so we can't say he'd have the functional strength to hang with men that size. The stuff about Foreman dehydrating himself and cutting weight is propaganda.

But Ruiz was all solid muscle, so Joshua gets a pass for being bashed around the ring by a much shorter man with short reach. The rolls of jelly and fat from decades of over indulgence on burritos and 7/11 slurpees are your eyes deceiving you. Ruiz is as strong as a bull and is much stronger than Foreman by virtue of sheer weight and is definitely on PEDs. No, I will not be providing any sources or proof to back this up, you'll just have to trust common sense and take off your nostalgia glasses.

 

There’s also the part about Wilder actually being experienced against huge guys.

 

Roy Jones is the best boxer of the recent era Mayweather is not close

 

Yup Foreman and Marciano were exactly the same. Except that Foreman had more than a half a foot on him, at least a good 40 or so pounds, and had a completely different style. But other than that, they were carbon copies.

 

Wepner, Turnbow, and O'Holleran were huge. Foreman's power was effective on taller or heavier men in both career and he had no trouble reaching their chins and boxing them.

A more clear indicator of power is stopping quality/prime/ranked guys or rugged guys with good chins like Chuvalo.

 

You didn't see all those Marciano matches where he used a heavy telephone pole jab, shoved and framed guys, was dedicated to attacking the body body, was superb at cutting the ring, and had a brutal right uppercut? Come on Swag, I thought you watched boxing.

 

And how exactly did this experience translate? What did Wilder do that Foreman did not do against bigger guys?

 

1. Fought at range.
2. Lowered his punch output against big guys with power.
3. Not dried out and nervous.

 

Wilder went 3-1-4 against skilled larger men, so IDK if what he was doing was particularly effective.

Wilder's very low punch output went from one extreme to the other leading to him being way behind on points in several fights and needing a KO to win (including his wins over Ortiz).

 

1-) So did Foreman
2-) His output didn’t have much to do with the size of his opponents
3-) Foreman wasn’t nervous

 

This didn’t age well

 

Big stretch there.

And yes Wilder lowered his output. It protected his chin and stamina.

 

Age is what decreased his output