How good was Sam Langford?

Dempsey was the heavyweight champion. You're not making anyone squirm.

 

Bro you are too stupid to realize what you wrote is a case-in-point not a counterpoint. Have a great one bud.

 

Most of the taken for granted framing I got abouts challenging is a side effect of the root.

Does not change the fact that it is racist propaganda. It's a nice rationalization and justification but the fact is they avoided allowing a black man fight for the HW title because the HW title was a propaganda piece used by bureaucrats to justify their treatment of citizens.

 

Insults of course. Obsessed with race what a surprise. I'm not your bud "bro."

 

Oddly enough, Jack Johnson and Kid Norfolk also benefitted from drawing the color line, Jack moreso.

 

Not bad bud!

IMO, the most ironic twist in the race based history of boxing is before there really is a color line and a bit after it's dead. Bill Richmond and Don King.

Folks seem to know Richmond trained most of the early BK black fighters. What folks don't seem to know is none of his students agreed with his business practices and a few attacked him over money. It was pretty common for Richmond to be greedy.

Just my opinion. JJ seems more like an independent. Like, bro, he will bone you to make him better. Does not matter who you are, he's not here to help you, just himself. Selfish like that. Where as Richmond and King are like vampires who prefer black victims.


I hear old DK that decrepit nosferatu looking zombie *****, recently sank his teeth in Michael Hunter. WTF?!

Last I seen him was behind Bermane. Can't believe guys still sign with King. World class HWs, champions ... FFS.

But anyway, I don't really have a comment on the race theory on blacks cashing in on anti-black schemes or leeching off black success. Don't get me wrong, I would, I'm not shy of the subject and did my best to make something interesting here, but I just don't know enough from that perspective. It is an interesting angle though.

 

The NSC and IBU had nothing to do with the WBC.

 

"There was racism in the 1920s of boxing. We shouldn't ignore it when talking about the past."

"BRO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ARE YOU OBSESSED WITH RACE BRO?? STOP USING THE RACE CARD MAAAN!!"

I love this forum. Acknowledging that a lot of white heavyweight champions of the "world" in the past couldn't even reasonably be called the champion of America because they used the color line isn't "being obsessed" with race. It is simply stating a fact.

 

Pound for Pound he towers over his contemporaries,Johnson,McVey ,Jeannette, and Wills.
He ranks with Charles,Armstrong,Greb,and Robinson,imo.
Today? Lhvy, and he would ko Beterbiev.

 

Did doe.

 

NSC becomes the BBBC.
IBU becomes the EBU.

Them and NYSAC are the main founders of the WBC.

 

He is probably the P4P hardest puncher of all time. He clearly had strength, very long arms, a terrific chin, recuperative powers, stamina and very decent speed. He'd either be 160 or 168 ..

 

There were well over a dozen regional commissions that banded together to form the WBC trying use the WBC to somehow add legitimacy to Langfords title claims is like saying the state champion of Ohio in 1912 has a claim to the world championship because Ohio joined the NBA which later became the WBA.

 

He wouldn't last 4 rounds against Manny Pacquaio. He never experienced unexpected ,looping , overhand lefts during his time.

 

They all had world titles.