USYK has NOT been granted EXTENSION

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  1. NahMateNoWay

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    I think Parker would consider throwing him a few hooks though.
     
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  2. NahMateNoWay

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    Usyk ordered (asked?) for a medical prognosis following footage of him - bad backa and all - dancing up a storm.
     
  3. Kiwi Fish

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    Fair enough, his team did always say it was for "non-visible injuries" maybe this is what they meant by that.

    I get that Usyk could be well enough to dance, but not well enough to fight or do a proper camp, but surely he is well enough to negotiate a fight, or at least come to the negotiating table?

    Even though this video doesn't mean much in reality, it does hurt the perception and reputation of the WBO and team Usyk.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm sure at 38 going on 39 y/o after having 370 + fights amateur and pro combined and having been training like a demon for decades and having just fought 3 times in a 14 month period and spending at least 9 of those 14 months in camp (and we know how brutal his camps are) Usyk has numerous recurring injuries and niggles.

    Maybe he's exaggerating the extent of his injuries because he needs more time after being the most active he's ever been at HW but by the same token there's a world of difference between dancing at an event and putting your body through a gruelling 12 week camp :facepalm:

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    I have recurring injuries and niggles. I have an ankle one which has been playing up recently. I do between 15,000 and 20,000 steps a day. It exacerbates the injury and hurts but it's manageable. However, if I tried doing a 100 meter sprint every day and it would exacerbate it x 100 within a day or two and I'd be hobbling round like a cripple for weeks
     
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  5. NahMateNoWay

    NahMateNoWay Member Full Member

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    Assuming what you're saying is true - he's aging, has niggles that'd get worse in training etc.- he gets to hold up the division?
    Maybe if his body won't let him meet the demands of being unified champ by honouring his mandatory after he took a voluntary to unify instead of doing so, he should drop a belt or two?
    Sounds like he's not up to the physical demands of the position he holds to me.
    Assuming what you've said is true of course, and hey I don't disagree - when you get up towards 40 things start hurting if you sleep the wrong way hahaha
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No, he just gets a few more months to recover and recharge his batteries after having only fought last month and fighting 3 times in 14 months. I want him to retire but if he is to continue with his career I want him to fight J-Park next. Team Usyk, Team J-Park, and the WBO need to come to a joint agreement where Usyk gets time to recover, J-Park gets his shot at him next, and maybe in the meantime J-Park has a tune up to shake off the rust. I think this is the solution which makes most sense for everyone and I think J-Park would be fine with that.

    Again, he's just fought 3 fights in a 14 month period, only just fought last month, and and spent at least 9 of those 14 months away from his family. 3 x 12 week camps in 14 months is a very tough schedule, especially for a fighter of his age and how gruelling his camps are

    I think Dubois screwed things up by ducking J-Park. Ideally those 2 should've fought for the right to face Usyk

    But if Usyk wants to drop some of the belts that's fine too

    :lol: They sure do.
     
  7. NahMateNoWay

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    Agree that 3 fights in a 14 month period is tough. And yeah I'd want a break too.
    Not disagreeing with that at all, just that I don't think he should be allowed to hold the division up the way he is, and at the end of the day if you aren't able to defend the title - reasons aside - you don't get to keep it.

    Honestly there's nothing stopping him negotiating the break he wants at the table with Parker, he has all the chips, influence, and power in this negotiation and tbh Parker isn't the guy to try and make that difficult for him. If they sign a fight for June (just an example) then fine, everyone knows where they stand and can act accordingly.

    That's the heart of it for me - make a decision and a plan, then take your break. But don't expect the WBO, Parker, and the division at large to wait for you.
    I feel like we're on the same page here tbh
     
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  8. like a boss

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    Confirms Usyk did claim injury to the WBO as the reason for wanting a break. Many thought that wasn't the case and that's on the WBO for their appalling lack of transparency.

    But how injured is Usyk? Not very, it seems.

    Are the WBO smelling a rat here or just being sensitive to thinking they have been played because it might make them look bad?
     
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  9. Finkel

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    So... he has fought once every 7 months. Wlad averaged that for his full reign as a unified champion, and he wasn't holding four belts.
    Sounds tough, luckily he only did 2 x 12 week camps in 14 months... which is quite normal.

    It's not really though is it. It's one fight every 7 months. It's what we should be expecting from our champions.


    Exactly right
     
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  10. NahMateNoWay

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    Actually you're right.
    Looking at it from after the first Dubois fight, he's fought three times since August 23.
    Three times in two calendar years. Ooof.
    Thanks.
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

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    Yes but Wlad fought midgets, cannoli vendors, Nigerian tree choppers, etc.
     
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  12. like a boss

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    What the WBO have actually said :

    The WBO Championship Committee Chairman Luis Batista Salas has sent the following letter to Usyk's team ordering a medical re-examination :

    “The medical update must be detailed and thorough, and must certify to the WBO Mr. Usyk’s present medical condition, prognosis, estimated recovery timeline and any other supporting medical evidence deemed relevant.

    “The committee cannot allow further delay or uncertainty without satisfactory clarification. Failure to comply with this request will leave the committee with no alternative but to take appropriate action in accordance with the rules and regulations of the WBO.

    “These actions place the championship committee in a difficult place, as the arguments raised in the petition supported by the supplied medical documents can now be questioned in light of these new developments.

    “The visuals appear to contradict the medical recommendations … and the representations made by Team Usyk … requesting suspension of the negotiation period for the mandatory bout.”
     
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  13. Nopa

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    He chose to delay rather than vacate. Usyk vs Parker 100% is going to happen.
     
  14. Kiwi Fish

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    Ok that makes sense, so the original documents he submitted must have included details of an injury that wouldn't allow dancing like he was.

    So now that he has been dancing like that it brings the credibility of those documents into disrepute l.
     
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  15. Serge

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    I don't want the division to be held up either and I want J-Park and Kabayel to receive their shots as soon as possible. Those 2 are by far the most deserving and unless Usyk vacates they should be his next 2 opponents.

    If he wants to do a mega money trilogy with Greedy Belly, even though the later doesn't deserve it and I'd rather not see it, that's fine too because no matter what anyone says he has clocked boxing numerous times over doing it the hard way in his opponent's backyards and on the road often as the B-side and he's an old man in boxing years and he's very near the end of his career now and he's earned the right to choose who he wants to fights and seek out the biggest paydays because he only has maybe 1 or 2 fights at most left, providing of course he vacates.

    But by the same token, he only fought last month and he has just fought 3 times in 14 months and the WBO should give him some extra time. Like I said, Team Usyk, Team J-Park, and the WBO need to come to a mutual agreement and compromise which makes all parties happy.

    He was already stripped by the IBF and then when he went to get his belt back and silence all the critics and the controversy regarding the first fight against Dubois, who I still maintain was on a better three fight run than J-Park, he got crapped on for doing that.

    Also, we don't know what Turki is playing in this. He made it very clear he has zero interest in Usyk vs J-Park which is ridiculous and he wants Usyk vs the completely undeserving Moses

    If the WBO do strip him I'd still like J-Park to be his next opponent, if he chooses to continue fighting that is. Not because that would make him 3 x undisputed HW champion, although it would be amusing because it would ruffle the feathers of the haters again, but because J-Park deserves his shot.

    The only reason I wouldn't like to see an Usyk vs J-Park match up is because I like J-Park too, think he's an absolute gent, and I'd rather not see him lose after his recent run of good form and results

    IIRC, I've only ever rooted against him once and that was against Big Joe Joyce and look what happened there. I jinxed him :lol:
     
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