Is Usyk the only clean champion in boxing

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  1. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    He gained 40lbs on the 60 if you will. And he still has great cardio at 38.
    Usyk is on PEDs but all his opponents are also on in obvious ways (Joshua, Dubois, Fury has already tested positive).

    Usyk in the summer 2024 : https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/34/6/1724530540-usykstero.png
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's possible he's clean, it's also possible he using PED's.

    Back at the 2011 Athletics world championships they did an anonymous survey and 57% of the athletes admitted to doping. Which just goes to show that's it's likely the majority of athletes in most sports are doping and boxing is no different.

    But having said that I also believe it's possible some people are simply that talented and that good they can be at the elite level while being clean. No amount of PED's can overcome pure natural talent and hard work. Some people are just born with the right combination of physical gifts that make them on another level to the majority of people.
     
  3. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

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    Are these guys even tested regularly? Are they signed up for VADA or equivalent year round? And its not like the tests are unbeatable, everyone swore Lance Armstrong was clean once upon a time, he passed over 200 drug tests.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    He barely throws 400 punches a fight these days, which is half of what he used to average at cruiserweight. And his feet have clearly slowed down too.

    I guess I am PED´s too.
     
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  5. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is a fighter on the juice ? Is a fighter not on the juice ? The correct answer is that there are more different types of peds/roids than there are current tests for ! With the money and prizes in professional sports I would be more surprised at who actually is 100% clean. There are also fighters who have the testing agency’s in there back pocket .
     
  6. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    He was a ripped 230lbs in 2008? huh? He is in the best physical shape of his career aged 38 all natural right?
     
  7. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PEDs can absolutely overcome natural talent and hard work. What PEDs do is allow you to train more and train harder. I think we would all agree the more and better the practice, the better you get at something. The guy using PEDs can practice and recover more than any full natty brah.
     
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  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Lol Usyk is clearly on something and will have had TUE's for steroids for his shoulder which was a nuisance for most of his career but now seems to not bother him anymore or maybe he just doesn't show it.
     
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  9. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    I'll give him credit that he's probably as clean as any boxer to come out of the soviet boxing lineage.
     
  10. NahMateNoWay

    NahMateNoWay Member Full Member

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    You know I've thought Usyk was broader across the shoulders than Opetaia, but he's really not eh
     
  11. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Every single one of them are on the juice. Love Usyk but they are all on it. Look at crawford for godsake put on 20 pounds of muscle in about 6 months. (He can justify it to himself but Canelos in the juice too) Professional boxing now a joke- its who has the best doctor amd masking agents
     
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  12. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Lee Haney had Holyfield go up 20 lbs of muscle in 5 weeks.

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  13. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    I met Usyk the day after his victory against Dubois. He was incomparable to this photo or the images of him after the start of the war.
     
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  14. NahMateNoWay

    NahMateNoWay Member Full Member

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    I really don't like leveling accusations of PED use against guys that haven't popped or some other evidence pointing that way like an association with a known peddler... Oops I mean Dr.... but jeepers that's huge musculature change in short periods with little to no impact on his endurance. Wow. Guys got that AJ genetics huh /s
     
  15. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's not ripped. No visible abs and he almost had love handles in his last fight. He's probably 215-218 fully leaned out. There comes a point for most athletes (clearly not all) where getting and staying fully lean isn't worth it because it requires an amount of starving and misery that ruins a training camp -- this is why the little dudes are on such a short fuse.

    AJ, Wilder... they'll always be lean. Excellent genes for staying lean. Usyk got plenty of other gifts, but not those.