Floyd Patterson vs James Tillis

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Aug 30, 2025 at 3:14 PM.


Who wins and how

  1. Tillis KO/TKO

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  2. Patterson KO/TKO

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  3. Tillis Decision

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  4. Patterson Decision

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  5. Draw

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Is Tillis too big for Patterson? Could Patterson’s speed and skill win the day?
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Tillis wasn’t much bigger than Patterson and frankly topped out at about fringe level. He had incredible hand speed though as did Floyd. But Patterson was at a higher level in skill and better all around . I can see Patterson winning a decision or maybe a late stoppage
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’ll take Floyd by decision here, but on this forum Patterson would beat back 1,000 silverback gorillas.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Floyd beats Tillis every day of the week.
     
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  5. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know about that. I keep reading here how "chinny" he was.
     
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  6. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Tillis just wasn't skilled enough to beat Patterson. Whether it is a 12 round or 15 round fight Floyd wins by comfortable decision.
     
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  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He got knocked down like 20-something times in his career, more than any heavyweight champion before or since I’m pretty sure.

    So yeah, he was chinny, but with few exceptions he’s the pick to win by a large number of people on this forum in just about any head-to-head matchup that’s ever been proposed.

    In reality, he never beat the top fighters he faced. What would you say was his best actual career win? Because I’ve seen him get the majority opinion to win fantasy matchups here vs a number of ATGs who were far better than fighters he didn’t beat in reality.
     
  8. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    His best win was the second Johansson fight. He couldn't beat Liston and Ali but I think he beat Ellis and Quarry even though he lost the decisions. He kayoed Archie Moore and Henry Cooper, outpointed George Chuvalo, Eddie Machen and Oscar Bonavena. I think he would have beaten Marciano in 1956 if Rocky hadn't retired, and had he done that nobody would disagree he was an ATG. Floyd always stayed in shape and never lost to a bad fighter. Of his losses, only the one to Quarry was to a non-champ.
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Even Sunday?
     
  10. Fergy

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    Especially on a Sunday.