USYK has NOT been granted EXTENSION

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  1. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's another new calculations, btw. First it was 3 x 12 week camps. Now it is "at least 9 months" of camps, so that would be 40 + weeks in camp. Fine, let's go with that if you want. Either way, he is getting 8 months of recovery time out of camps during a 14-month period.

    That's still 4 months of recovery time before he starts the next camp. Is that really a hard schedule?

    Well Derek is a gate keeper and Usyk is an ATG. Maybe Derek should have taken his training more seriously throughout his career.

    Again, while I am sure it is hard on his body, it sounds like Usyk is choosing to go the extra mile during his training camps. When added to his talents and experience, he is reaping the benefits as current Champion and already an ATG.

    Him wanting to take 4+ month breaks between camps, is really an Usyk problem. Drop the belts, defend them, retire, ask for emeritus status. There are many options available to him. Claiming to be injured then dancing on TV was... an interesting choice
     
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  2. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, the 'but he trains harder than others and should get a rest because of it' excuse is absolutely lame and even the dumbies at the WBO wouldn't fall for that.
     
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  3. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    So Parker fights Wardley in Oct

    And perhaps Usyk in Mar 2026 or so?
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And if it goes down that way, I want to see Parker elevated to champ and have Wardley as a successful defense. Imagine the magic of the introductions when you have the undefeated, three-time undisputed two-division champion against a two-time titlist in his second reign! This is the magic I was hoping for when Parker should have gotten his chance against Dubois, made good, and came in with that kind of cache.
     
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  5. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Hmmmm. Good point, Catchwt.

    Good for the promo
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I already explained to you I made an honest mistake. I've been particularly badly sleep deprived of late and I make mistakes sometimes albeit way way less than I should do given how sleep deprived I often am so there's no need to be snarky about it. I debate in good faith and if I get things wrong sometimes it's due to honest mistakes.

    He fought 3 times in 14 months. That's a fact and within those 14 months he had two 12 week camps, and 3 in 17 months. Yes, that is hard on the body when you train as hard as he does, are campaigning in a division full of giants and men who are much bigger than you, and you're already one of the oldest HW champions of all time and in a couple of weeks are about to become the 5th oldest HW champion, 2nd oldest unified HW champion, and the oldest undisputed one, providing the WBO doesn't strip him before that is.



    This is ''pretty normal''?

    'Oleksandr Usyk's training camps are notoriously intense and demanding, combining two to three grueling sessions daily that include high-intensity strength and power training, running, swimming, cycling, and a significant focus on sparring. The camps are known for their exhaustive nature, featuring unique "mental training" elements like solving number grids while fatigued, making them exceptionally difficult for both his body and mind.
    Key Aspects of Usyk's Training:
    • High Volume & Intensity:
      His days start early with two or three sessions, incorporating a diverse range of activities like running, swimming, and cycling.
    • Explosive Strength Training:
      He performs fast-paced circuits with weights, bodyweight routines, and exercises like explosive deadlifts and sit-ups with giant medicine balls.
    • Dominance of Sparring:
      Around 60% of his week during the final phase of camp is dedicated to sparring to prepare him for the relentless pressure of a fight.
    • Cognitive and Mental Training:
      Usyk undergoes tests that challenge his ability to think under physical fatigue, such as solving Schulte tables (number grids) and juggling to maintain focus.
    • Scientific Approach:
      His training includes science-driven methods focused on explosive power, velocity monitoring during lifts, and exercises that improve rotational function for better punch leverage.
    • Sacrifice and Discipline:
      Despite moments of exhaustion and a desire to be with his family, Usyk maintains unwavering discipline, acknowledging that hard work in training is crucial for success.
    'Oleksandr Usyk's trainer Egis Klimas has revealed the boxer's absurd training routine he used to prepare him for his rematch with Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia.

    Usyk, who beat Joshua by unanimous decision the last time the pair met, almost choked as he prepared for the fight.


    "When I think about Oleksandr Usyk, I am very proud to represent him," Egis Klimas, Usyk's coach, said first.

    "I can tell you, I haven't seen anyone ride a bike for 45 kilometers in 100 degree heat."

    "I haven't seen anyone swim the day before the press conference in London for 1 kilometer in the pool for five hours."

    "I've never seen anyone hold their breath under water for four minutes and 40 seconds, almost passing out."

    "When I asked him, what's wrong with you? he said, "I know I have a coach behind me, he won't let me choke, he'll get me out," Klimas concluded.


    You mean the Chisora who has one of the best engines in the division who is a high volume pressure fighter who applies relentless pressure from round 1 to round 12 throwing bombs throughout despite weighing in the 250s and being in his late 30s and early 40s now? You know how hard that it to do and how fit you have to be to do it?

    Like I said, maybe Usyk is exaggerating the extent of his injuries because he feels he needs more time or maybe he isn't but either way there's a world of difference from dancing at a club, event or whatever it was and putting your body through a long gruelling camp where you're training 3 times a day and doing a lot of high intensity workouts every day and are and lifting heavy weights.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No I am not. He fought 3 times in 14 months. That's a fact. I know he fought Dubois the first time in August the previous year but the point I'm making is the fact he did fight 3 times in 14 months

    I already explained that was an honest mistake on my part. I checked the dates between fight 1 and fight 3 of his last 3 fights and had a brain fart not factoring in that the 3 month camp for fight 1 was obviously the 3 months prior to fight 1 not during the 14 months where he fought 3 times
     
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  8. Nopa

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    He makes Prime Lewis look like a child with that discipline and mentality. I'm starting to believe Usyk might be the best HW in the world and one and only true HW GOAT.
     
  9. Nopa

    Nopa New Member Full Member

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    As WBO mandatory, Parker doesn't need to fight Wardley I think. I'd rather have him keep himself fresh for Usyk.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk is so GOATED if he lost a fight at 39-40 + y/o to a much bigger and younger massive puncher it would be deemed 1000 x worse by so many than all the other greats and GOATs losing in the midst of their primes to fighters their own size and age
     
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  11. Kiwi Fish

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    I think the received wisdom is that Parker needs rounds otherwise he will get rusty. It is definitely a risk for him to be taking this fight with a titleshot on the line. But maybe Usyk will vacate and then Parker will be fighting Wardley as his first defence?
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes, I agree Team Usyk should be entering into negotiations with Team J-Park even if Usyk is not ready to fight by the end of the year. But maybe the delay with coming to the negotiating table is because he's unsure about his future, whether he has 1 or 2 fights left or maybe even none at all

    I know Krassyuk wants him to retire and said he will do everything within his power as a friend to convince him to do so IIRC and Klimas seems more keen on him going into movies or doing a MMA crossover fight. Anbar seems to want him to retire too and maybe Usyk just doesn't want to confront these hard decisions right now. Not saying it's fair for the likes of J-Park if this is the case but we just don't know at the moment. And like I said, maybe Turki is playing a big part in this behind the scenes. Hopefully we find out soon and they can come to a compromise
     
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  13. rolzone

    rolzone Member Full Member

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    He needs to be sharp. He has no chance if he is not, which is why even if they sign the dotted line today he’d prefer to have a tune up
     
  14. NahMateNoWay

    NahMateNoWay Member Full Member

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    That is a fact
    So is that he's fought twice in 13 months.
    Or once in the last nine.
    Or four times in three years.
    But none of those is a fair indicator of his actual activity is it?
    Honestly mistakes happen, no sweat mate.

    At the end of the day we can chop the dates any way we like, but in my opinion his activity is three fights in two years Serge, which is busy but hardly taxing especially for a champion who hasn't defended the belt in question during that period.

    And after all, he doesn't have to fight - he can drop the belt. But I don't see why he should get to hold up proceedings before he commits to a fight or dropping with the rest of the division waiting to see what happens, and his activity isn't the argument that'll persuade me on that now that I've actually gotten off my arse and looked at it.
     
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  15. Kishnabe

    Kishnabe Member Full Member

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    Should vacate the belt, then reunify with the winner of Parker-Wardley.
     
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