Is Wladimir Klitschko a favorite over prime George Foreman and Sonny Liston H2H

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Aug 30, 2025.


Who wins

This poll will close on May 26, 2028 at 9:05 AM.
  1. Klitschko steps on both of them

    29.2%
  2. Liston ruins him

    50.8%
  3. Foreman melts him

    66.2%
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  1. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would you like a shovel?
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You’re just a thesaurus guy.
     
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  3. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AI slop merchant*
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I don’t get it. I’m just talking boxing. I’m not the one who alluded to my profession, and if they can’t stand it, so be it.

    Corticosteroids will still be considered PEDs and will never be classed as painkillers.
     
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  5. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    These people always think they know better then actual professionals in the field
     
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  6. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah idk what the point is anymore lol
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I mean even if the commission didn't know about it all modern athletes are on PEDs, so what tf is this all about ? I'm lost
     
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  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know what that's supposed to mean, but I'll wager it's better than pretending to be a doctor.
     
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    1. The point is that Liston quit with a shoulder injury that didn't require surgery. Manny fought without serious issue and was nowhere near quitting against Floyd despite having a shoulder injury that resulted in elective surgery after the fight. The assumption is that Liston quit for reasons that extended far beyond an injury.
    2. He was given PEDs but still quit.
    3. They're mad me at me for my boxing opinions and knowledge of medicine.
     
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  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Someone claiming Cortisone is a PED, when there likely wasn't even a prohibited substances list back then.

    Even if one did want to overlay today's prohibited substances list onto 1964, Glucocorticoids are not banned outright. Hence Therapeutic Use Exemptions.
     
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  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. We're laughing at you for pretending to be a doctor.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    I'm a soldier on Call of Duty ;)
     
  13. Man_Machine

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    I'm the original X-Wing pilot with the callsign "Red 5" (true story).
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is it really that crazy Liston took substances for a sustained injury ? Considering he was on it 5 days prior ? Could be PEDs but I think the accusations are a bit unfair
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I didn't say it was crazy. A PED is a PED though. He'd either need a TUE or get banned for it today if it were a VADA fight and possibly even if it weren't.

    Maybe a certain group of posters is giving pushback because they like to think that old athletes were clean? IDK.
     
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