If it had being Cleveland Williams against Floyd Patterson...?

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  1. BCS8

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    It's a crapshoot. Patterson had that speed going for him but Williams was significantly bigger. Both pretty good technicians. Maybe patterson a bit better. Both have notorious glass chins, but Patterson's came pre-cracked.

    Either could win, really, but I think I lean towards Williams.

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  2. Fergy

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    I agree Floyd was an excellent fighter, he had power and speed.
    But Ingo was no Muhammad Ali, yet he had Floyd' All over the place.
    I can't see no reason why a big hitting guy like Williams couldn't do the same.
    What punch s did Ingo have Floyd hurt with mostly?
    Remember this is a man (Williams) that went toe to toe with Liston, and took some power shots,I don't see Floyd just taking him out.
     
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    I don't know where he's getting it all from that he only had that one punch!
     
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  4. Devon

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    I give him a better chance than I would have given Johansson, so he absolutely has a chance, but I may edge towards Patterson to take it down the stretch.
     
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  5. BoxingFan2002

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    Yet Floyd beat him in the rematch twice, Ingo had harder punch and right hand which Williams did not have.

    Remember Ingo is the only one who stopped Machen inside 1 round, and Floyd still beat him twice in the rematch.

    Williams could not do what Ingo did even if you give him baseball bat.
     
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  6. PRW94

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    I go with Floyd but Williams is the livest of live underdogs.
     
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