Has Canelo ever legitimately beaten a top 10 P4P level fighter?

He was #1 around that 2018 period .. after he'd done his 'quit' run & then jumped to LW & gave us that classic against Linraes.. peak Loma.. no one put on a display like prime Chenko.. #1 back in the day.. whether you think he was or not is irrelevant really, because that's what history will show.

 

This.

Canelo is and has been elite and hes proven it.. Even to beat some of his opponents who are seen as B level in the fashion he has consistently is enough….

….Oh, and he beat GGG cleanly the second time…

Ward clearly is jealous and is a hater of anyone that was near his weight, who he didn’t fight when he was active…I actually like the guy and don’t think hes quite the smug ***** that I used to though… at least not all the time.

 

You rambled on that to say nothing. In case you missed it, at the end of my statement I specifically said "If you ask me"......meaning that was my opinion, which is what p4p status is in the first place. I can care less about what "history will show".........

MY OPINION is that he wasn't p4p#1 being that he was beating up on opponents who were naturally 2 or 3 divisions smaller than him. Getting a fighter like Rigo to quit on his stool sounds good until you look at the fact that Rigo is a bantamweight, while Loma is a natural lightweight. Rigo jumping up to 126 to fight a man who should have been at 130/35 to begin with...... Sorry that doesn't impress ME.

P4P status should have something to do with your ability vs another's ability regardless of the weight differential. Not using that weight differential to neutralize the skillset of the other. That "No Mas Chenko" chant disappeared as soon as he started facing opponents closer to his size. Why do you think Teofimo wanted to fight him so bad. To expose that his power wasn't what was causing fighters to stay in the corner. It was the fact he was too big for them to be effective with what they were doing. Loma was a high profile weight bully. Skilled and talented, but definitely was facing much smaller competition. There was a lot of lightweights at the time that would have been able to do the same to Rigo, Walters, Sosa, and (I can't remember who else quit on the stool) as Loma did. But the difference is, they were fighting in a weight class that they physically were comfortable in, not draining themselves to have smaller competition.

Now this isn't to say he was a p4p caliber fighter because I was a fan of what he did in the ring. Just didn't have him as #1 because of what I just expressed.

 

Agreed on the resume comparison, and I also prefer Crawford.

Its mind boggling how the irony is lost on so many saying “Canelo hasnt fought anyone like Bud.”


Listening to Wards book made him more tolerable to me.

 

The people saying Lara beat Canelo are the same people who claim Canelo ran too much vs GGG1.

 

Im sure your hero, Clenelo, won 8-9 rounds on your card.

 

No. His closest claim is Billy Joe Saunders, the best name on his resume that he has a decisive win over. That said, BJS had clearly declined and was cashing out in their fight. A few years prior he was a legitimate top 10 p4p fighter.

 

Actually, I didn't like Canelo, GGG was my favorite fighter at one point, so you're very far from the reality here too.

 

4 paragraphs to a nothing post LOL

Your opinion is irrelevant. FACT is he WAS #1.

Cry.

 

My opinion is irrelevant, yet you are here to talk to me about..........MY OPINION.... Seems like it holds just a little value.....

There's a lot of things in life that I feel is "irrelevant" but you'll never know about them, because I'm not holding a conversation about it, let alone arguing with someone about it.

You are free to step away and go lick windows or whatever it is you do on your spare time. During that time, look up the definition of FACT....then you'd realize, it's not a FACT that he was #1.......It is a matter of OPINION. I don't have time to explain that to you especially being that you seem to not like too many words thrown at you at one time.....

 

Or, maybe, he thinks your opinion is so dumb that he wants to debate you

Idk, just maybe that’s why

 

GGG is the best opponent Canelo ever beat. It was a razor thin decision after a controversial draw and he got caught with PEDa going into the second fight. Oh, and Canelo’s own fanboys love to say that GGG never beat anyone good himself.