Biggest "forums darlings"

Not Wlad

 

35 rounds lost in his career.

 

Holmes also had 2 decisions he should have won go against him so you can easily balance it out.

 

And those 2 decisions were far worse.

The Spinks and Nielsen decisions are considered robberies.

I had Holmes winning both fights clearly by 3 points.

 

That's what I rate so high about Holmes he was one of the hardest guys to dominate only Mike Tyson had easy time with him in a 75 fight career spanning till 52.

 

And here they come.....

 

This is my revised position after looking through the rankings and belt exchanges. Neither Holmes nor Wladmir became undisputed and missed some very important names in their eras. I don't think either one is top 5.

I can kind of see the logic behind this. Wladmir did seek out strong challenges and did unify with some decent belt holders while Vitali never did.

However, again, I insist that this falls on both guys (moreso towards Vitali) since their resumes have one giant *asterisk as they never fought each other and they were the two strongest boxers in the division co-existing.

 

That's fair enough. I think that's the closest we can get to agreeing.

 

Agreed it counts against Wlad to a extent but more so Vitali that's a fair way of putting it.

 

Old timers view their hero’s nostalgically. Plus most fans don’t have a great perspective for the importance of size and the evolution of the sport. Boxing training has improved and it’s more of a global sport.