Which decade in boxing was the most corrupt?

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  1. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    I believe the 1930s was the most blatantly corrupt decade but I'd like to hear what others think and why.
     
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  2. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Late 40s to late 50s because boxing was run by the mob.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    With all the handcuffing and drawing of the color line, I am highly suspicious of most results1900-1920.
     
  4. Boxing GOAT

    Boxing GOAT Active Member Full Member

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    40’s - 70’s. Mob had a lot of control.
     
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  5. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    Frank Carbo, the unofficial czar of boxing in the 1940s and '50s, had a predecessor in the New York mobster and bootlegger Owney Madden who owned a nightlife empire and reportedly, pieces of many prominent fighters including Maxie Rosenbloom, Max Baer -- and Primo Carnera. Carbo took on the mantle of undercover czar after Madden abandoned New York for Hot Springs, Arkansas, a wide-open town where he ran gambling, prostitution, horse racing and other assorted (sordid) vices. If you believe, as I do, that Carnera's knockout of Jack Sharkey was a fix, you can assume that Madden was involved.
     
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  6. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Everything touched by humans is corrupt, in all decades. We may never be able to recognize which decade was the most corrupt in boxing, depending on how well the corruption was covered up. I seriously doubt if anybody alive today even knows.
     
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  7. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    It was probably wild west the first few decades following the post bareknuckle era.

    Also, weren't some wins decided purely by who newspapers preferred?
     
  8. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There was no judging infrastructure. That was the only way to do it.

    But belts and official benefits were not conferred by these newspaper decisions. Matter of a fact this allowed some champions to keep their titles despite losing most famously Mike McTigue.
     
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  9. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    The Bible even says so.

    TO me, the 40s and 90s were pretty corrupt. The 90s with all the horrible decisions.
     
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  10. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I also agree with you. Uncle Mike Jacobs was responsible for all of it, having complete control over of MSG and other venues, as he was both promoter and manager of Champion boxers under his beckoning, otherwise you don't get to fights. He protected his Champions from losing. Such was the case of Davey Day who was Barney Ross policeman /stablemate, who overshadowed Davey from becoming Champion. Henry Armstrong, Lou Ambers, both wanted to fight Ross for the welterweight title and offered each two contracts, first, beat Davey and than you get to fight Barney for the title, they both declined the offer 1937. Mike Jacobs enters the picture changing the dynamics, allowing , Armstrong to fight Ross. What else would you like to know? Thank you.
     
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  11. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    Thanks for the insight on Davey Day.... Mr Day ;)
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Take your pick of the:

    • Carbo/Palermo forties
    • Carbo/Palermo fifties
    • Don King seventies
    • Don King eighties
    • Don King nineties

    An entire half of the last century was downright filthy.
     
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  13. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Owney Madden also had control over James J. Braddock and cut a deal with Mike Jacobs for estimated $500,000 to let Joe Louis fight Braddock and make him champion. Braddock, himself got a piece ( percentage) of Louis for life. Jacobs percentage of Louis was around 25% for life.
     
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  14. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Do you think Braddock-Louis was fixed?
     
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  15. Bronson666

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    I wonder if Jacobs also had control over the rankings back then which cleared the way for title shots. Louis defended his titles against some absolute mismatches. Several of those opponents hadn't beaten anyone with a winning record. Some got title shots coming off of a loss. How were they ranked so high? Someone wanted Joe to remain champion.

    Armstrong never defended his featherweight title despite fighting 14 opponents in '37/'38, until he moved up to challenge for the lightweight and welterweight titles. Only defended lightweight title once and lost it. Now sure how he can fight 14x and none of them are title defenses.
     
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