How shocked would you be if Crawford manages to pull off a knockout win against Canelo?

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm talking hypothetically and if Inoue was to hypothetically move up to 130 and KO or stop Twink

    Clenelo is a better and far more proven and accomplished fighter than Twink but the other side of that coin is, unlike Cleneo, Twink is in his prime and he is not on a four year stoppage win drought and the size difference between Twink and Inoue is greater. But Inoue has already been accused of being on PEDs for carrying his power up to his 3rd and 4th division despite Crawford having a KO 100% at his 3rd weight. But how is Crawford going to escape those same accusations if he KOs or stops the iron-jawed 168 pounder Clenelo who doesn't even get hurt, let alone stopped or KO'd?

    Manny's KOs dried up because, in complete contrast to Crawford and other weight bully multiple weight champs who were still bigger than their opponents or roughly the same size as their opponents when they moved up through the divisions and have never been undersized at any weight they've fought at, Manny was routinely facing much bigger men at 147 and above. The same goes for Floyd whose stoppage wins dried up too at the higher weights
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    There really isn't a big size disparity at all. I think Crawford is going to come in at 175 bare minimum, Clenelo 178-180 if he's telling the truth about his fight night weight

    Those big dumb shoes actually make Crawford look smaller than he is not bigger. They might make him look taller but they make his legs look skinny

    This is supposed to be David vs Goliath. I'm pretty sure Goliath was way bigger than David

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    I don't necessarily see size and power being the biggest advantage for Clenelo in this fight. For starters, as said, Crawford is huge and isn't much smaller at all and also Clenelo is kind of slow and sluggish, has a much shorter reach, and when he swings those big overhands you can see them coming.

    He's dangerous with uppercuts in close, with counters, and when he punches in combination but he doesn't do that much these days and if Crawford can keep him on the end of that long reach and jab, and by being faster and busier, and use his feet to get out of danger when Clenelo tries to trap him on the ropes Clenelo is going to really struggle and find himself getting outboxed again

    The bigger advantage for Clenelo for me is the much higher level of company he's mixed in and the fact Crawford has barely fought any punchers. But to balance that out I think Crawford has a lot less miles on the clock and has a lot more left, and is much sharper than this version of Clenelo who hasn't been able to secure a stoppage win for love nor money in four years of facing cherrypicks
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm not accusing him of being on PEDs I'm highlighting the double standards of other fighters being accused of being on them for carrying their power up through the weights even if they actually haven't done so. Crawford cannot escape such allegations if he KOs the iron-jawed Clenelo three weight classes above where he has ever scored a KD
     
  4. BCS8

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    Crawford ain't knocking Canelo out unless Canelo has become garbage overnight. Ginger has a bunker of a chin.

    Craford's best bet is to change style and play it like Sugar Ray Leonard. Lots of fast flashy but low power combinations, movement and razzle-dazzle. Mixing it up with Clenelo is not a good plan.
     
  5. FrankinDallas

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    Well I'd be dumbfounded.
     
  6. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    I would be extremely shocked if he got a knockout Saturday. But I wouldn't be shocked if he got a TKO. Crawford's punch placement freezes offenses of some great fighters. Canelo is flat foot and we have seen him have his struggles against fighters who use different angles to touch him like Amir Khan. Crawford is lightyears better than Khan so if he can find the timing to catch Canelo and put a nice combination together to freeze him as he resets....Crawford has the dog in him to finish the job.

    Again, this is given the referee does his job. We've seen refs over the years give the cash cow of the fight the benefit of doubt that they wouldn't give to any other fighter. Look at the Wilder/Ortiz first fight. Round 9 should have gave Wilder his first loss of his career. Ortiz was beating on him for 45 seconds straight with Wilder doing nothing but leaning on his heart to keep his body from collapsing.
     
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  7. Bobby Tony

    Bobby Tony Active Member Full Member

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    Digesting the points in this thread and my own general feeling about this match-up, feel like I'd be more shocked if Canelo stopped Crawford than the other way round. That of course was everybody's first thought including mine when the match-up was first floated around and sounded ridiculous. But given the trajectory of each man's career, Bud feels like he could be on the rise and catching Alvarez at the right time. Plus Vegas' usual role in Canelo's favorable readouts set aside, I'm wondering if the Turki - who is Team Bud and may harbor some lingering resentment towards Canelo's initial reluctance to join under the Riyadh banner - may control the judges this time.

    Somebody somewhere on this site of esteemed boxing minds postulated a (fixed) 'draw' for this match so we could get more money-milking rematches. And knowing modern boxing, that outcome feels not entirely unlikely.
     
  8. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    Why would someone tell Canelo to throw a fight vs Crawford? Why would he choose to throw a fight vs Crawford?

    People get a WiFi connection and just say anything.

    This thread sounds like people are trying to put an excuse in place just in case Canelo comes up short vs a man that everyone claims doesn't belong in the ring with him.

    If Crawford stops Canelo...........I personally would be EXTREMELY shock........but at no point will I attempt to run to a conspiracy scapegoat.......

    But then again, that's par the course for Crawford's victims. From Spence to Porter to Brook to Benavidez to Postol to Gamboa, etc.... Every time Crawford excels beyond what some fans claim is his limit, there's always the excuses and conspiracy theories to follow. Oh, well.
     
  9. JusABoxinFan

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    So in otherwords, Crawford can never win this fight. If he finds success, it's because Turki made sure the judges keep the situation in position to milk a rematch.

    Problem with that theory is....... If Turki was looking to milk more money........why would he have this fight for free on Netflix and not do a PPV? I don't think fans really understand how much money is made through PPV platforms.....and on the flip side, how much is lost if the PPV numbers don't break even or simply aren't existent in such a huge even.

    The total purse alone for this fight will exceed $200M for these fighters. That doesn't even take into account the cost to throw the event, the venue, promotion, etc..... The theory of trying to 'milk' a rematch, triology, etc....just doesn't fit the actions of Turki.
     
  10. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Timing is everything.
    Canelo isn't the the fighter he was he's slow and his stamina isn't great.
    Bud might have timed this perfectly he's going to be big on the night although depending how much work he has to that could hinder him later on. There are a lot of unknowns going into this.
    I still think Canelo will squeak the win, he's used to fighting guys his size or bigger, Bud isn't - He's used to being the bigger guy, the stronger guy that's not going to happen. Volume, angle, boxing for rounds is bud best chance of a win. Not sure Bud will get a stoppage. Think it will go down as a close win either way,.
     
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As someone who will be rooting for Crawford.......................I see absolutely no scenario based on the history of either (and yes past performance does indicate future behavior) that suggests Crawford knocks out Canelo. Not even the remotest of possibilities.
     
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  12. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Crawford manages that then I suppose I'll have to admit I know just enough about boxing to be correct about as often as random chance.