Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. Terence Allan Crawford & Christian M'billi vs. Lester Martínez RBR

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    There's a couple of different ways to go about that. You can go with decades or reigns. Decades is easier, because every weight class has a different dominant champion. The ones which don't are even harder. The average reign at heavyweight is something like two and a half years, or two fights and a certain percent have 0 defenses and lose the belt immediately. Then there are the ages when who's the real champ is unclear. Did we just go through the Fury years or the Joshua period? Joshua had the most belts and fought the better competition but Fury had the lineal claim as the first man to beat Klitschko. Muddying the water even further with so called retirements and Joshua knocking out Klitschko immediately after. Everything was up in the air before Usyk stepped up to beat them both. Now, do we start his reign with Joshua or with Fury? Then there are all of the times when the titular champs wouldn't fight the #1 challenger, the belt freeze during WW2, and the period of the Black Murderer's Row getting frozen out. Decade divisions make more sense to me. Then you don't have to get into Golovkin being avoided or people dropping belts they don't want to defend. For most purposes, this is the 2020s era of boxing.
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Sure, but what names is Inoue lacking that Crawford has?
     
  3. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do we think Canelo of the 2nd GGG fight beats this Crawford? Honestly, feels like Canelo has really fell off in recent years which is totally understandable
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Without a doubt. This decrepit shot to hell version almost did.
     
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    anders100 Active Member Full Member

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    It's everyone else that just hates Canelo ;)

    This fight was Crawford all day.
     
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    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had it 3 to 2 Crawford thru 5. I ****ing hate Canelo but this was a close fight thru 5 imo , then Crawford took over.
    Again I think Canelo landed the bigger shots thru 5, but Crawford a bit more active. Look the first 2 rounds was basically both just having a look, so it wasnt a one sided fight the first half of the fight. You think Crawford won every round or something. me no
     
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    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo and Spence. One that is for sure going to the hall of fame and another who may potentially get in. Both were for undisputed.
     
  8. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Not a chance. These clowns on here glazing Crawford acting like he beat a prime Canelo.
     
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  9. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Crawford was doing as he does and just figuring canelo out, I think it was a comprehensive win and I think you could see it in Canelos body language in the later rounds, he just didn’t have an answer to Crawfords work
     
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    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    same here
     
  11. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 OFFICIAL THREAD DIDDLER banned Full Member

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    That Canelo, even with the weight disadvantage, would not have struggled with the likes of Scull and would have certainly knocked out every opponent he's faced outside from Bivol of course.

    SO yes.
     
  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Isn't Crawford two years older than Canelo?
     
  13. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They almost looked equal tonight in the ring. In terms of size, Crawford is actually a little taller than him, I didn’t think there was going to be much of a size advantage and there really wasn’t. Clenelo is also 35 himself and has more fights than Crawford.
     
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    Mandela2039 OFFICIAL THREAD DIDDLER banned Full Member

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    when i say every opponent he's faced, i mean from 2022 to 2025.
     
  15. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah, but he also has like two dozen less fights than Canelo