Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. Terence Allan Crawford & Christian M'billi vs. Lester Martínez RBR

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  1. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah, but he also has like two dozen less fights than Canelo
     
    vargasfan1985, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:27 PM
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I think either 7-5 or 8-4 at most for Crawford.

    Like I said beforehand, if a way smaller Khan can outbox a prime Clenelo for 5 rounds with his speed and movement then Crawford can outbox this slow pedestrian past prime Clenelo for 12 because Clenelo literally has literally never had a solution to that puzzle in his locker and the fact he hasn't scored a stoppage win in 4 years whilst cherrypicking the entire time and most of those cherrypicks have subsequently either been knocked out or stopped or beaten by far from elite fighters let me know he was badly faded and that Crawford would outbox him

    Yes, Crawford is very physically strong
     
    Serge, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:28 PM
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Crawford just said that Canelo did not punch as hard as he thought he would.
     
    African Cobra, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:29 PM
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  4. Walcott

    Walcott Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I remember something very telling, Canelo landed several effective shots in the first round, Crawford one. At the end of the round they showed a single replay, it was the one shot by Crawford. The narrative was set, can someone please show me this masterclass that I missed?
     
    Walcott, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:30 PM
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Crawford is 38. Prime Crawford beats prime Canelo
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:30 PM
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He never has an answer for that style and he never did. Crawford won but there was no high degree of difficulty for him to do so he just had to follow the well established blue print and execute a super simple game plan
     
    Serge, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:31 PM
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  7. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    more than that. Canelo was in a bunch of club fights in Mexico as a teenager that never made their way into his record.
     
    Barrf, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:31 PM
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  8. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    He is. Will turn 38 later this month.
     
    African Cobra, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:31 PM
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You think Bivol could effectively compete at Heavyweight, you're kind of an idiot.
     
    CST80, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:31 PM
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bivol would smoke Dubois. Easy work
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:32 PM
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  11. Impulse_0

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    They need to start the main event earlier this is crazy
     
    Impulse_0, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:32 PM
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  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Bud had a little bit of height and reach. But canelo had the naturally bigger frame and more strength. Hes also been fighting at the higher weights for a long time now. And buds inactivity was a factor going into this fight. But I’m glad he won
     
    mr. magoo, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:32 PM
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  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Inoue has Donaire, who will get in for sure.

    Inoue on the other hand has had a far more consistent career in fighting actual top 10 competition. Spence under Top Rank took sooo many pointless fights against lesser opponents, or former high level competitors who were well past it.
     
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  14. Dan-the-man

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    Very suprised to see people claiming canelo won, that’s absolutely crazy!
    I wouldn’t call it a schooling but, for me, a decisive Crawford victory
     
    Dan-the-man, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:32 PM
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  15. CST80

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    Point proven!:lol:
     
    CST80, Sep 13, 2025 at 11:32 PM
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