Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. Terence Allan Crawford & Christian M'billi vs. Lester Martínez RBR

Power_tek · Sep 14, 2025

Serge said: ↑

Yes. Like I said, the blue print to beat even a prime Clenelo has well and truly been established and that's 3 times he's lost to the same style and everytime he'd looked absolutely clueless how to solve the puzzle. All Crawford had to do was execute a very simple game plan and not get caught with one of those big telegraphed overhand hooks which you can see coming no problem and just get your gloves up in time
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I don’t agree Crawford fought his fight he didn’t follow any blueprint certainly not Floyd’s blueprint, no one can copy that and he didn’t stay behind his jab and keep canelo at distance all fight like bivol did.

Dagnaldinho · Sep 14, 2025

Serge said: ↑

Clenelo hasn't stopped anyone in 4 years despite cherrypicking like crazy.

Look what Sheeraz did to Berlangy in his first fight at the weight

What featherfist Surace did to Mung

What Mumg did to Juan Ryder

What Shishkin did to Scull hurting him badly with a freaking jab and almost stopping him in round 12

Look at Plant losing to a MW who has been knocked out 2 fights earlier and how Plant was dropped and nearly KO'd early by a club fighter

The signs of decline were as clear as day. Clenelo stops those guys in his prime.

You think I would've been so confident of Crawford winning if this was the Clenelo of 5 years ago?
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I been saying this also, i was a heavy advocate that this will be a clean Crawford victory simply because in this sport timing is everything, Canelo will not make Bud work at a pace hes uncomfortable with, Canelo will not throw in combination, Canelo will not cut off the ring effectively. Weight was never going to be a issue here simply for the fact this version of Canelo was tailor made for all of Buds attributes he would be bringing with him to 168.

154lb Canelo or even 160lb Canelo 6/7 years ago. Discussing a completely different fight with a potentially different outcome.

IntentionalButt · Sep 14, 2025

By the way, guys, the Inoue card is underway (Japan/Philippines broadcast, anyway). There's a pretty fun JBC lightweight title fight going on now.

CST80 · Sep 14, 2025

OvidsExile said: ↑

Not a lot of space between them stats-wise but if I'm reading this correctly then Canelo outlanded Crawford in total punches 6 out of 12 rounds and with power punches in 10. Crawford won the jab war 10 rounds to 2. That doesn't say who's punches were harder, who landed the cleaner more significant shots, or who controlled the fight but on paper this fight does look fairly even. Just look at those dismal totals though. This must have been fought at a snails pace. Canelo's first fight with Golovkin was excellent and had 200 more punches from each fighter. By comparison, this looks like a sparring match that broke out into a fight in rounds 9, 11, and 12. 28 punches a round. Canelo, don't strain yourself! Isn't the average at that weight around 60 punches thrown a round? Even Crawford only threw 44pr. I haven't seen it yet, but this sounds more like a Mayweather fight than a Pacquiao fight. Crawford fought on the outside using his superior height and reach to control the range turning it into a sniping battle.
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You're right about one thing, it was a dismal fight fought at a snail's pace. It was as tight as your butthole while visiting Provincetown.

IntentionalButt · Sep 14, 2025

CST80 said: ↑

You're right about one thing, it was a dismal fight fought at a snail's pace. It was as tight as your butthole while visiting Provincetown.
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Of all the people that should not go a place.

CST80 · Sep 14, 2025

IntentionalButt said: ↑

By the way, guys, the Inoue card is underway (Japan/Philippines broadcast, anyway). There's a pretty fun JBC lightweight title fight going on now.
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I need a 2 hour break, I feel shell-shocked. But I'll make it time for the last three matches.

Alexmadzorro · Sep 14, 2025

CST80 said: ↑

One thing for damned sure was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Weight bullies do exist, and Bud Crawford might be the sport's most egregious offender.:угода: He looked massive in there, against Canelo, who usually looks massive.: лол:
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100%

African Cobra · Sep 14, 2025

CrossT said: ↑

Call me crazy but I honestly thought Canelo was going to get KO’d in that last 10-15 second exchange his head was bouncing around like a pin ball. I need to watch it again. He also sounded pretty concussed in the post fight interview with Max “I feel great!…I feel great!”
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Bud’s punches stunned him.

Serge · Sep 14, 2025

Dagnaldinho said: ↑

I been saying this also, i was a heavy advocate that this will be a clean Crawford victory simply because in this sport timing is everything, Canelo will not make Bud work at a pace hes uncomfortable with, Canelo will not throw in combination, Canelo will not cut off the ring effectively. Weight was never going to be a issue here simply for the fact this version of Canelo was tailor made for all of Buds attributes he would be bringing with him to 168.

154lb Canelo or even 160lb Canelo 6/7 years ago. Discussing a completely different fight with a potentially different outcome.
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Yeah, everything pointed towards a Crawford win and I thought the chances of Clenelo landing a bomb and winning by KO vs longer reach Crawford who was using the ring were very slim especially given how Clenelo hasn't stopped been able to stop cherrypicks in 4 years whilst being very active

CST80 · Sep 14, 2025

Alexmadzorro said: ↑

100%
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African Cobra · Sep 14, 2025

bandeedo said: ↑

i thought canelo would stop him, and i think bud beat him. its all about boxing with me. it aint about me or my insecurities.
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Well said. A few here are actually claiming Canelo won.

DobyZhee · Sep 14, 2025

IntentionalButt said: ↑

By the way, guys, the Inoue card is underway (Japan/Philippines broadcast, anyway). There's a pretty fun JBC lightweight title fight going on now.
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Thank you, there’s more boxing???

Serge · Sep 14, 2025

Power_tek said: ↑

I don’t agree Crawford fought his fight he didn’t follow any blueprint certainly not Floyd’s blueprint, no one can copy that and he didn’t stay behind his jab and keep canelo at distance all fight like bivol did.
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He did follow the blue print. Just box and move and be quicker on your feet so you don't get caught. Might have not have followed the exact same blue print down to a t but the principal is the same

IntentionalButt · Sep 14, 2025

DobyZhee said: ↑

Thank you, there’s more boxing???
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https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...takei-vs-christian-medina-jimenez-rbr.741536/

African Cobra · Sep 14, 2025

Dagnaldinho said: ↑

Its all the same guys in here who predicted Canelo by KO, now discrediting Buds victory. The guys just jumped up virtually 3 weights and beat a guy whos reigned at the top of that division for a long time. Why pick the Canelo KO if this was expected. If Canelo was completely washed, you should have known beforehand that Bud would beat him into a bright pink complexion, then maybe your attempts at discrediting post fight could be valid.
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I these guys filled out the scorecards for a Canelo win before the fight started. They are deluded and bitter sad people at the result.

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