There is a new P4P #1 and he's American

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  1. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well people, it's official. Usyk has been dethroned as the P4P number 1. Let it annoy you as much as you want, but you know it's completely true.

    Crawford is now the ONLY x3 undisputed champion in the 4 belt era (an accomplishment only he has achieved), and he moved up 2 divisions for that last one, beating a former P4P #1 and certified P4P all time great in Canelo Alvarez while being the naturally smaller man. Add the win over former P4Per Errol Spence at Welterweight, and Bud now being a 5 division champion (one of now only 6 in all Boxing history), and it's a done deal.

    As awesome as Usyk and his overcoming of big size disadvantages vs Fury and AJ were, this is more impressive. For those of you saying Canelo was shot:

    1. No he was not, he was merely past it, he looked way better than he did vs Scull a few months back, and his defence was absolutely on point. Crawford's incredible use of the jab limited his attacking opportunities and took him away from his preferred range, to the point where he dropped his hands and basically quit out of frustration from Bud's sheer skill.

    2. Canelo certainly wasn't any more past it than Fury was, especially the 2nd time around, where he looked awful. I know a guy and his girlfriend works at a McDonalds and she served Fury in the lead up to that fight. Make of that what you will. And Canelo's always just been plain better than both him and AJ.

    10 years have passed since the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight, and due to the unceremonious condition of Boxing at the time, these past 10 years have been classified as merely "the post MayPac era". You had several guys trying to fill up that slot that Floyd left behind since he retired. Chocolatito, Lomachenko, Golovkin, , Canelo, Usyk, Crawford, Inoue etc.

    But it was Canelo who defined this era for the most part, and had the best resume out of all of them. And now, on top of his other accomplishments, Crawford has beaten him.

    This is the Crawford/Canelo era, and contrary to whatever the eastern European fanboys want you to think, the best fighter in the world is American again. Proving again that America will always be the best Boxing country.
     
    Ioakeim Tzortzakis, Sep 14, 2025 at 12:57 AM
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yahweh Bless America!
     
    George Crowcroft, Sep 14, 2025 at 1:19 AM
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  3. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair play, crawford is now the p4p nr1, that's what usyk was saying all along. I still think the usyks resume is way better and he had to overcome more to defeat fury (the size difference is massive and there is no cutting weight and being natural 25 pounds heavier).
    But still respect is there where it is due.
    Now dream fight crawford vs bivol! If crawford beats bivol than he is imo the goat! (Side note, crawford is naturally not smaller than canelo)
     
    Mordechai, Sep 14, 2025 at 1:25 AM
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Nope, still a Ukrainian!
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    CST80, Sep 14, 2025 at 1:27 AM
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  5. MarkAntony202

    MarkAntony202 Member Full Member

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    - profile says Greek

    - is gloating about America being the best at boxing

    hmm.

    Anyways race/nation fans are never happy people so it’s best not to be one.
     
    MarkAntony202, Sep 14, 2025 at 1:43 AM
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  6. Bofo24

    Bofo24 hobbyist Full Member

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    Should still be Usyk, as he had better wins against Fury x2 and AJ x2, almost KOed Fury too. Bud should surpass Usyk if he defeats Bivol.
     
    Bofo24, Sep 14, 2025 at 1:46 AM
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Bud beats Bivol he would be the greatest boxer of all time. Usyk is being overrated
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Sep 14, 2025 at 2:29 AM
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    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chuck Norris, Sep 14, 2025 at 2:45 AM
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, It would be infinitely more impressive if Bud beat a prime early 30s Beterbiev.
     
    tinman, Sep 14, 2025 at 2:53 AM
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  10. Stonehands

    Stonehands Member Full Member

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    I didn't know Inoue got his citizenship.
     
    Stonehands, Sep 14, 2025 at 3:24 AM
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  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    The suspects desperately want Usyk out of the number one spot :lol:
    Sorry lads it’s not gonna happen.
     
    MidniteProwler, Sep 14, 2025 at 3:37 AM
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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd give it to Usyk, but I don't think he's miles away from Crawford.
     
    tinman, Sep 14, 2025 at 3:38 AM
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  13. Bigplatts

    Bigplatts Member Full Member

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    I'll probably get hate for this but:

    Doesn't Crawford beating Canelo sort of just show what a sham Crawford's whole career has been up until now. He was one of the worst weight bullies in the sport at 135, 140, 147, even going against Madrimov, Crawford slightly outweighted him and had the longer arms. Crawford should've been fighting the same weights as Canelo his whole career: could've squeaked into 147 early on but likely not long enough to win a title there (Crawford has never actually weighed below the welterweight limit on fight night even in his early fights) and should've spent most of his career around 160 and 168 like Canelo has.

    It was an impressive victory for Crawford tonight (although I think you can easily score it either way) but it just shows that Crawfraud's whole career until now has been a massive guy beating on smaller guys. Wasted potential, wasted career.
     
    Bigplatts, Sep 14, 2025 at 3:57 AM
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    The amount of butthurt on this forum is remarkable.
     
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  15. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To me Crawford was No1 before the fight. There should be little doubt now.
     
    THE BLADE 2, Sep 14, 2025 at 5:34 AM
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