Who do you rate as P4P #1 right now?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:24 AM.


Who is your P4P number 1 - September 2025?

This poll will close on Dec 22, 2025 at 9:24 AM.

  1. Inoue

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%

  2. Crawford

    19 vote(s)
    55.9%

  3. Usyk

    14 vote(s)
    41.2%
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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Inoue, Crawford or Usyk?

    There are several other very good boxers (Rodriguez, Bivol, etc.) but those I think are clearly the top 3.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:24 AM
    Perkin Warbeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:24 AM
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  2. Dj-Rossi

    Dj-Rossi New Member banned Full Member

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    Usyk, is P4P number 1 until the day he announces his retirement.

    Crawford needs to at least move up to Light Heavyweight, maybe even Cruiserweight to be in the discussion with Usyk. He's not close yet, decent fighter though.

    Usyk has been consistently beating up the top guys who outweigh him by 30-55 pounds in their backyards. At Heavyweight were one lapse in concentration and you're on the deck.

    Usyk's ability and achievements are clearly number 1. He's completed the entire boxing game, amateur and pro, with everything against him.
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2025 at 10:40 AM
    Dj-Rossi, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:30 AM
    Dj-Rossi, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:30 AM
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  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Something to consider: Crawford has avoided Ennis, while neither Inoue nor Usyk has ever avoided anybody.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:44 AM
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Crawford or usyk with a slight edge to crawford.
     
    Pimp C, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:51 AM
    Pimp C, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:51 AM
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3: cope harder lame.
     
    Pimp C, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:52 AM
    Pimp C, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:52 AM
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  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are idiots who think Usyk ducked Hrgovic the same way you think Crawford ducked Ennis. You can’t please every idiot on the internet.

    Usyk and Crawford are tied for #1, Inoue is a distant #3.
     
    theanatolian, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:53 AM
    theanatolian, Sep 14, 2025 at 10:53 AM
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  7. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    It's very different.

    Ennis is more comparable to Dubois. He was a prime titleholder at 147, about the same size as Crawford, regarded by nearly everybody as the best at that weight with the exception of Crawford.

    No one thinks Hrgovic is the best heavyweight next to Usyk.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:43 AM
    Perkin Warbeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:43 AM
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  8. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Crawford ppv sales on the weekend explains everything no one cares about lower weights! So Crawford then Usyk gap to Naoya..
     
    PIPO23, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:45 AM
    PIPO23, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:45 AM
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't avoid Ennis. He moved up to fight a champion.
    Do not put Ennis and Dubois in the same sentence. Jaron is hilariously more skilled and durable. Dubois is about to become a gatekeeper
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:47 AM
    MarkusFlorez99, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:47 AM
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  10. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    In his prime too. Which is why Crawford avoided him.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:52 AM
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Crawford is fhe best since Mayweather.
     
    NoNeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:56 AM
    NoNeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:56 AM
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  12. Kiwi Fish

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    Crawford has to be number 1 for jumping up two weight classes and beating a unified p4p.

    I think p4p has to be weighted towards actual recent performances instead of theoretical or older performances.
     
    Kiwi Fish, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:58 AM
    Kiwi Fish, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:58 AM
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He moved up to fight an undefeated champion.
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Sep 14, 2025 at 11:58 AM
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He wasn't even a real 154. It was one fight and he was the smaller guy.
     
    NoNeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 12:01 PM
    NoNeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 12:01 PM
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  15. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Not undefeated, he lost to Bivol. Canelo was obviously faded and slow-footed now, obviously a cherry pick by Crawford.

    While Ennis is in his prime and fleet-footed.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 12:01 PM
    Perkin Warbeck, Sep 14, 2025 at 12:01 PM
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