Bivol, Floyd, Bud, Who fought the better version of Canelo?

Not really. People discredit Floyd all the time. If he had the exact same career as Bud (with the same reputation) they’d tear it apart.

 

Canelo's absolute peak was GGG 2 imo so depending on how you scored it then yeah, I agree. Not a huge fan of Canelo the personality but his boxing was awesome then.

 

Bud, I thought Canelo looked pretty good, Crawford was just insane in there.

Bivol fought a prime Canelo but the match was at 175 and Canelo was useless beyond round 4 due to stamina.

 

I mean, Floyd struggled against Castillo, Maidana, Judah in the early rounds. Got absolutely rocked by Mosley. He also had one sided fights too. The point is, everybody loses rounds. Everybody gets rocked. You can't just go your whole career never losing rounds or getting hit hard. It happens to everybody.

I do think Crawford's resume is a tad bit overrated, but the guy is legit AF.

 

What is more crazy, Bud moving up multiple weight classes to beat Canelo at 168, or Canelo moving up to Cruiser and winning a title? Bud traversed more weightclasses since he beat Spence (3) to fight at 168 than Canelo would have to go move up to fight at Cruiser (2).

Of course there's far more weight involved for Canelo to move up to Cruiser or Heavyweight than Bud moving from WW to SMW, and comparatively easier for Bud to do so given many factors, including the height and reach of Canelo compared to Bud, etc. But after what Bud just did, we should definitely give more consideration to those who would be willing to move up multiple weights like Crawford did.

That's not to say it would be easier for Canelo to do so and be competitive at higher weights, given that he's already moved up many weight classes himself, and yes losing to Bivol brought him back to Earth and made him moving up higher seem ridiculous, i.e. if he couldn't beat Bivol at LHW then how could he beat or even be competitive with Cruiserweights. Well the answer to that is that Bivol is I think we can say more stylistically difficult to beat regardless of weight, and probably harder for Canelo to beat than many Cruisers.

Canelo moving up to Heavyweight to Fight Usyk would be moving up the same number of weight classes as Bud did to fight Canelo. Of course it seems preposterous now, but when Canelo was P4P #1 and destroying everyone, it did not seem as crazy, especially since Usyk was a relatively small Heavyweight himself. And given that RJJ did a similar thing (granted he started at higher weights, but still) I personally would have liked to see Canelo vs Usyk at Heavyweight. I wouldn't expect Canelo to win, but Canelo (especially back 4-5 years ago) may have given Usyk a better fight than any other Heavyweight not named Fury. And you can laugh at this idea all you want, plenty of people laughed at the idea of Crawford being competitive let alone beating Canelo. It's all a joke until it happens, then no one's laughing.

 

Bivol by far.

The Canelo that Floyd fought had barely beaten Austin Trout. Crawford would have battered that version.

 

None of them fought prime Canelo but I think Bivol fought a closer to prime version than the others.

 

Here's a question - Who of those 3 would have been able to beat a Prime (2017-2021) Canelo? The Canelo that drew/beat GGG, schooled Jacobs, destroyed BJS, etc. Would either Floyd, Bivol, or Bud have been able to beat *that* Canelo, at 168? I doubt it. Maybe Bivol could pull it off, but Prime Canelo annihilates any version of Mayweather or Bud.

Here another question - how would 2013 152-lb Mayweather have faired against this version of Bud? Who would you favor? It seems to me that despite fighting at lower weights for more of his career than Floyd, i.e. Floyd spent more time at 147 and 154 for example than Bud, it seems that Bud is more capable of moving up to higher weights than Floyd ever was. Bud I think would be a problem for any version of Floyd because of his Awkwardness, the fact that he has a longer reach than Mayweather. I just don't see how any version of Mayweather could beat 168-lb Bud. For years fans have said that Mayweather would not have been able to beat Prime Canelo, and that the version he fought was compromised and easier to beat than Later version of Canelo at higher weights.

 

They were wrong. Mayweather beats any version of Canelo

 

No way Jose. Prime Canelo would be too much.

 

Bivol. /thread

 

Canelo was always flatfooted and was never as fast. That's his downfall. Mayweather by schooling, size is overrated. Canelo will not land enough shots

 

How about Mayweather against this version of Bud? Would Mayweather have been able to put on 14 lbs like Bud did and move up to 168 and dethrone an Proven Battle Tested Undisputed 168-lb Champ? Mayweather said himself countless times that 154 is his limit. I do not see how Mayweather could have done what Bud just did. But if you do, make your case.

The fact is that Canelo was considered pre-prime when he fought Mayweather and is considered post-prime when he fought Bud. Prime Canelo who had his way with GGG, Jacobs and BJS would be much tougher to beat.

I don't know about you but I would have to favor this version of Bud against any version of Mayweather. Mainly because of the style of Crawford, the footwork, the long reach. How would Mayweather deal with someone like Bud? In my estimation Canelo is better suited, even now, to deal with Bud than Mayweather would be. Mayweather doesn't have the power or the body punching to keep Bud cautious and Bud has the skills to give Mayweather fits.

 

Styles make fights. Canelo is a far easier style for Mayweather than Crawford. Crawford could beat Mayweather

 

Who would you favor, the Mayweather who beat Canelo at 152 vs this version of Crawford at 168? Would Crawford be too much for Floyd?